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Just ended on eBay a fine example of a circa 1800 Native American club in the shape of a Gar fish
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Lew, are you saying you believed the seller for even one moment are you??
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I CHECKED TO SEE WHAT THE RANGE OF THE GARFISH IS AND IT IS SAID TO RANGE AS FAR NORTH AS QUEBECK CANADA AND SOUTH TO COSTA RICA. THERE ARE NO GAR LIVING IN OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD THOUGH FOSSILS ARE FOUND IN QUITE A FEW PLACES.
ONE OF THE PICTURES OF THIS CLUB SHOWES A CROSS HATCHED PATTERN THAT RESEMBLES GAR SCALE PATTERN BUT MOST DESIGN ON THE CLUB DOES NOT. THE DESIGN IS A COMMON ONE EVEN IN PARTS OF THE WORLD WHERE NO ONE EVER SAW A GARFISH. I WOULD SAY THIS PATTERN ON AN AUSTRALIAN ABORIGINAL CLUB AND PERHAPS THE FACT THAT IT WAS FOUND IN AN ESTATE SALE OR SOMEWHERE IN THE USA. DOSEN'T MAKE IT A NATIVE AMERICAN CLUB. ![]() AS FAR AS I KNOW THERE ARE NO NATIVE AMERICAN CLUBS IN THIS FORM ,BUT I AM CERTIANLY NO EXPERT ON NATIVE AMERICAN CLUBS AND HAVEN'T SEEN ALL POSSIBLE FORMS. IN MY EXPERIENCE IT FITS AUSTRALIAN CLUBS AND I HAVE SEEN MANY EXAMPLES FROM THERE. ![]() AUSTRALIAN CLUBS WERE NOT EXPENSIVE IN THE PAST BUT NOW BRING A MUCH LARGER PRICE I GUESS THE AUSTRALIAN ECONOMY IS STRONG NOW SO THEY ARE COLLECTING. WHATEVER THE REASONS SOMETHING IS DRIVING THE PRICES UP. |
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Considering both clubs are made out of the same species of wood seals the deal for me. The seller states his is made of ironwood? Ironwood is only found in the Southern USA and Mexico specifically the Sonoran desert some 2000 miles from the great lakes region so I highly doubt if there was any type of trade between the two areas. Btw that hole that the seller claims to be the eye was probably made either to mount the club or it was made to accommodate some type of thong to help with gripping the end while swinging the club? The cross hatching on the grip matches the one on mine and all the others that I have seen. All the incised work were made with stone tools. Last edited by Lew; 19th June 2012 at 11:45 AM. |
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But, it was owned by Alben Barkley!!!
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Caveat emptor !
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