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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Holland
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Hello,
I put this keris up for coment and discusion to learn. I bought it from a older collector , this keris was in his collection for a long time but i like to hear what are the meanings of other,s ? Of course there is a waraka and hilt for this blade but i wan,t the focus on the blade . Dapur Petut Kembar Age Pajajaran Segaluh ???? Al coments are welcome. |
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Hello Danny,
Please post the fittings later on! Quote:
Regards, Kai |
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Join Date: May 2006
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This is a good blade to look at and learn.
I'm not going to give my opinion here, lets see who can work it out. |
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Looks like a reworked (chisel marks and allocation of rust pittings on the back side putut) huge (Tuban?) blade.
Yet I don't understand, how the front side Putut is done. Was this a sort of Kebo, or is it welded on? |
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#5 |
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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it looks like tangguh Tuban-Padjajaran based from the pics
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Join Date: Jan 2007
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In my humble knowledge, although possible and example may exist, contrary to western believe that many putut and other blade with character carving are rework pieces, they simply are not.
Not likely a 16 c./older in my opinion. I would conservatively date the first half of 20c. Would like to learn the philosophy behind dapur Putut as well (also similar dapur like Semar Pethak) and how long they have been around. |
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Join Date: Aug 2007
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Hello all,
like I write Danny by e-mail yesterday I am the opinion that this is a reworked blade. The characters are to sharp at the edges. I have asked Danny if the characters are thicker as the blade byself, I think that this is a good first indication. The front figure is thicker so I think it is welded on like Gustav assumed. I may be wrong but this is the impression I get by the pictures. I don't want to foreclose that this is like Chandra write a blade from the first half of the 20th century. Attached a picture of one from my putut blades which is genuine (I think and hope ![]() Regards, Detlef |
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Location: Nova Scotia
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#9 |
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Holland
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Hi guys ,
Everybody thanks for joining in the discusion. I realy have no idea if the blade is a reworked keris , i only strong have the feeling that the blade is old , when i look to te collor and the structure of the iron. ofcourse it can stil be reworked . Kai was asking for the dress , i think it has no use to show it , it,s made for the keris and ofcourse younger . Detlef , yes we talked about it by email. one petut is a little thicker and one side almost the same thicknes as the blade . The edges are sharp, but i know keris here in collections in Holland that can be proven to be old but stil have sharp greneng,s and almost no wear on the blade , so... ![]() I can make aditionel pictures when needed , this wil be a intresting discusion to learn ! |
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