Bali ceremonial knife

Gustav · 20th December 2012, 09:34 PM

Dear All,

finally it has found his new owner, and I think, it would be interesting to start a discussion about it:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-INDO...item19d74a7316

At first sight I thought it would be the real thing, but then... one thing for sure: it would be the first one of this kind I see without the "Banji" (swastika) ornament. And there are some other strange features.

Is this one an attempt to cheat or just a less fine or more recent example of its kind?

Gustav · 20th December 2012, 09:36 PM

Pics continued:

Gustav · 20th December 2012, 09:39 PM

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Atlantia · 20th December 2012, 09:51 PM

Hi Gustav,

It's a nice knife, shall we call them 'Wedung'? I know some do and some don't.

Artzi had a similar one on his website some time ago:
http://www.oriental-arms.com/photos.php?id=1812

Atlantia · 20th December 2012, 09:55 PM

I have two 'cousins'.
Sadly neither comes with the oversized ceremonial scabbard, the "party dress".
One of mine is 'naked' and the other only has it's 'everday' scabbard.
Both of mine have the 'swastika' geometry.

Sajen · 20th December 2012, 10:22 PM

Hello Gustav,

have found this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=bali+knife

The one from Artzi was discussed here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=bali+knife

The one you have posted look original to my eyes and like the both threads show they don't need to have the swastika ornament. But honestly I have state that I don't know to much about them.

Attached a picture from the first thread.

Regards,

Detlef

20th December 2012, 09:34 PM	#1
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,247	Bali ceremonial knife Dear All, finally it has found his new owner, and I think, it would be interesting to start a discussion about it: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-INDO...item19d74a7316 At first sight I thought it would be the real thing, but then... one thing for sure: it would be the first one of this kind I see without the "Banji" (swastika) ornament. And there are some other strange features. Is this one an attempt to cheat or just a less fine or more recent example of its kind? Attached Images

20th December 2012, 09:36 PM	#2
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,247	Pics continued: Attached Images

20th December 2012, 09:39 PM	#3
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,247	And more: Attached Images

20th December 2012, 09:51 PM	#4
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Hi Gustav, It's a nice knife, shall we call them 'Wedung'? I know some do and some don't. Artzi had a similar one on his website some time ago: http://www.oriental-arms.com/photos.php?id=1812 Attached Images

20th December 2012, 10:22 PM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,769	Hello Gustav, have found this thread: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=bali+knife The one from Artzi was discussed here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=bali+knife The one you have posted look original to my eyes and like the both threads show they don't need to have the swastika ornament. But honestly I have state that I don't know to much about them. Attached a picture from the first thread. Regards, Detlef Attached Images

20th December 2012, 09:55 PM	#5
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	I have two 'cousins'. Sadly neither comes with the oversized ceremonial scabbard, the "party dress". One of mine is 'naked' and the other only has it's 'everday' scabbard. Both of mine have the 'swastika' geometry.