sword blade, attribution aid

Elmereya · 25th April 2021, 09:58 AM

good afternoon, please help with attribution of this blade,
If possible, tell me what kind of hilt should be for this blade.
with respect.

the shank is reground, and there are later graffiti on the blade than those in the photo

M ELEY · 27th April 2021, 01:45 AM

Wow, we don't have much to go on with this one! I know that 6-sided blades such as this were very popular with Spanish swords of the 17th-early 19th century. Curiously, although fitted for Spanish swords, most of the blades at that time were made in Germany for export. If we assume it is made for the Spanish market and of the time period mentioned, this blade would have been made most likely for a Spanish bilbo pattern cavalry sword or possibly a dish/cup hilt broadsword. The markings tell us little, as the sun and moon symbols are used throughout Europe. This is just my opinion and I'll open the floor for others now!

midelburgo · 27th April 2021, 11:58 AM

I do not think this is for Spanish use. I would say German made for France or a minor German State. With the style of the ricasso, early XIX century. You do not give measurements but it could have been cut down.

Elmereya · 27th April 2021, 12:31 PM

good afternoon, thanks for the discussion,
dimensions: total length 85 cm. width at the base 27 mm. thickness at the base is 9 mm.
with respect

Elmereya · 27th April 2021, 06:59 PM

there are such museum swords dating from the graffiti on the blades in 1710, I'm not sure what can be compared with mine, but very similar in structure, the blades are probably also Solingen, for Russia?

Elmereya · 27th April 2021, 07:02 PM

here is one

25th April 2021, 09:58 AM	#1
Elmereya Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 70	sword blade, attribution aid good afternoon, please help with attribution of this blade, If possible, tell me what kind of hilt should be for this blade. with respect. the shank is reground, and there are later graffiti on the blade than those in the photo Attached Images

27th April 2021, 01:45 AM	#2
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,097	Wow, we don't have much to go on with this one! I know that 6-sided blades such as this were very popular with Spanish swords of the 17th-early 19th century. Curiously, although fitted for Spanish swords, most of the blades at that time were made in Germany for export. If we assume it is made for the Spanish market and of the time period mentioned, this blade would have been made most likely for a Spanish bilbo pattern cavalry sword or possibly a dish/cup hilt broadsword. The markings tell us little, as the sun and moon symbols are used throughout Europe. This is just my opinion and I'll open the floor for others now! Last edited by M ELEY; 27th April 2021 at 01:46 AM. Reason: Added comment

27th April 2021, 12:31 PM	#4
Elmereya Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 70	good afternoon, thanks for the discussion, dimensions: total length 85 cm. width at the base 27 mm. thickness at the base is 9 mm. with respect Last edited by Elmereya; 27th April 2021 at 12:44 PM.

27th April 2021, 07:02 PM	#6
Elmereya Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 70	here is one Attached Images

27th April 2021, 11:58 AM	#3
midelburgo Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 257	I do not think this is for Spanish use. I would say German made for France or a minor German State. With the style of the ricasso, early XIX century. You do not give measurements but it could have been cut down.

27th April 2021, 06:59 PM	#5
Elmereya Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 70	there are such museum swords dating from the graffiti on the blades in 1710, I'm not sure what can be compared with mine, but very similar in structure, the blades are probably also Solingen, for Russia?