A Fine ca. 1460 South German Haquebut Retaining Its Working Time Painted Stock

Matchlock · 15th November 2010, 08:06 PM

Preserved in the Deutsches Historisches Museum Berlin.

Barrel wrought iron, ca. 1460, hexagonal, touchhole on top edge, remnants of original minium (red lead) paint, socket for tiller stock switching edges; length 89 cm, cal. 24 mm.

Tiller stock of down curved, relatively modern form, a ca. 1500 working addition, painted black and with white owner's Gothic minuscule initial h and a cross.

Color photos copyrighted by the author, 1988.

Best,
Michael

fernando · 17th November 2010, 02:39 PM

What a Superb haquebut

If i were a richman

... i'd buy the Berlin Museum ... with such contents ... and staff, to ensure the painter

... not excluding the stock maker; quite an advanced artist, for his time.

Spiridonov · 17th November 2010, 03:41 PM

Michael, it is so beautiful barrel that i will try to calculate proportions and made a 3d model. Especially the most important fact that it has original paint.

Matchlock · 17th November 2010, 06:54 PM

Hi Alexender,

I knew you'd like it right away.

Attached please find two very similar but slightly 'younger' Nuremberg haquebut barrel of ca. 1470-80, (because the touchhole has moved a bit more to the right), also hexagonal, with tiller sockets, and retaining much of its original minium paint.

The first is preserved in the Bavarian Army Museum Ingolstadt, and the only date I have is the overall length: 86 cm, inv.no. W363.

Best,
Michael

Matchlock · 17th November 2010, 07:09 PM

Almost the pair to the foregoing piece, preserved in the Germanisches Nationalmuseum Nuremberg.
Length ca. 80-85 cm, inv.no. W 497.

m

fernando · 17th November 2010, 07:18 PM

Fascinating.
Looks like the paint is rather thick. I can't beleive that, at such period, they already used a primer before the final layer.

Matchlock · 20th November 2010, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fernando

What a Superb haquebut

If i were a richman

... i'd buy the Berlin Museum ... with such contents ... and staff, to ensure the painter

'Nando, my dear friend,

Had you been in the Berlin museum (Altes Zeughaus) and its reserve collection, I'm quite sure, as a freak of early cannon, you would at least think twice about buying their whole ensemble ...

Good night (or rather good morning)
from your dead tired Bavarian friend
Michl

P.S. Could you please share some good images of that extremely rare 14th/early 15th c. lime stone cannon ball I was informed by the highest authority

that you were lucky enough to acquire these days - as soon as you received it, of course?

fernando · 20th November 2010, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matchlock

... Could you please share some good images of that extremely rare 14th/early 15th c. lime stone cannon ball I was informed by the highest authority

that you were lucky enough to acquire these days - as soon as you received it, of course?

Sure thing, Herr Trömner

You can bet on that

Matchlock · 20th November 2010, 07:28 PM

We're looking for to see it!

m

15th November 2010, 08:06 PM	#1
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	A Fine ca. 1460 South German Haquebut Retaining Its Working Time Painted Stock Preserved in the Deutsches Historisches Museum Berlin. Barrel wrought iron, ca. 1460, hexagonal, touchhole on top edge, remnants of original minium (red lead) paint, socket for tiller stock switching edges; length 89 cm, cal. 24 mm. Tiller stock of down curved, relatively modern form, a ca. 1500 working addition, painted black and with white owner's Gothic minuscule initial h and a cross. Color photos copyrighted by the author, 1988. Best, Michael Attached Images Last edited by Matchlock; 15th November 2010 at 08:21 PM.

17th November 2010, 06:54 PM	#4
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Hi Alexender, I knew you'd like it right away. Attached please find two very similar but slightly 'younger' Nuremberg haquebut barrel of ca. 1470-80, (because the touchhole has moved a bit more to the right), also hexagonal, with tiller sockets, and retaining much of its original minium paint. The first is preserved in the Bavarian Army Museum Ingolstadt, and the only date I have is the overall length: 86 cm, inv.no. W363. Best, Michael Attached Images

17th November 2010, 07:09 PM	#5
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	Almost the pair to the foregoing piece, preserved in the Germanisches Nationalmuseum Nuremberg. Length ca. 80-85 cm, inv.no. W 497. m Attached Images

17th November 2010, 02:39 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	What a Superb haquebut If i were a richman ... i'd buy the Berlin Museum ... with such contents ... and staff, to ensure the painter ... not excluding the stock maker; quite an advanced artist, for his time.

17th November 2010, 03:41 PM	#3
Spiridonov Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Russia, Leningrad Posts: 355	Michael, it is so beautiful barrel that i will try to calculate proportions and made a 3d model. Especially the most important fact that it has original paint.

17th November 2010, 07:18 PM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Fascinating. Looks like the paint is rather thick. I can't beleive that, at such period, they already used a primer before the final layer.

20th November 2010, 07:28 PM	#9
Matchlock (deceased) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bavaria, Germany - the center of 15th and 16th century gunmaking Posts: 4,310	We're looking for to see it! m