keris for comment 1

semar · 3rd March 2010, 04:30 PM

hello guys ho can tel me more about this keris

regards semar

David · 3rd March 2010, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by semar

hello guys ho can tel me more about this keris

regards semar

More that what? You haven't told us what you know.

A. G. Maisey · 3rd March 2010, 11:23 PM

Semar, David is absolutely correct in requesting a more specific question.

The way keris knowledge works is that the question somebody asks indicates that person's level of knowledge, and thus the depth of answer he is able to understand.

If you ask a specific question the answer can then be tailored to your needs.

Without a specific question somebody could write 5000 words about your keris and still not tell you what you want to know.

semar · 4th March 2010, 10:11 AM

oke thanks for your comment David
what I think is thats a dapur hanoman and I think mataram pamor beras wutah but i not zeker

semar

A. G. Maisey · 4th March 2010, 10:36 AM

The Surakarta Pakem lists dhapur Hanoman as :-

luk gangsal (5), sekar kacang, jalen, lambe gajah, sogokan dumugi pucuk ( until the point), tikel alis, sraweyan, ri pandhan, pudhak setegal

This keris lacks pudhak setegal, the groove that runs to the point is not a sogokan, as far as I can see there is no sraweyan.

I cannot match the features that this keris possesses to the Pakem, however, it could well be the attempt of a maker not familiar with court standards to produce a keris of dhapur Hanoman.

I would give the pamor as ngulit semangka, I can see no characteristics that would indicate a Mataram style blade. In my opinion this blade is probably of East Jawa origin.

semar · 4th March 2010, 01:04 PM

thank you

3rd March 2010, 04:30 PM	#1
semar Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 272	keris for comment 1 hello guys ho can tel me more about this keris regards semar Attached Images

3rd March 2010, 11:23 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,893	Semar, David is absolutely correct in requesting a more specific question. The way keris knowledge works is that the question somebody asks indicates that person's level of knowledge, and thus the depth of answer he is able to understand. If you ask a specific question the answer can then be tailored to your needs. Without a specific question somebody could write 5000 words about your keris and still not tell you what you want to know.

4th March 2010, 10:11 AM	#4
semar Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 272	oke thanks for your comment David what I think is thats a dapur hanoman and I think mataram pamor beras wutah but i not zeker semar

4th March 2010, 10:36 AM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,893	The Surakarta Pakem lists dhapur Hanoman as :- luk gangsal (5), sekar kacang, jalen, lambe gajah, sogokan dumugi pucuk ( until the point), tikel alis, sraweyan, ri pandhan, pudhak setegal This keris lacks pudhak setegal, the groove that runs to the point is not a sogokan, as far as I can see there is no sraweyan. I cannot match the features that this keris possesses to the Pakem, however, it could well be the attempt of a maker not familiar with court standards to produce a keris of dhapur Hanoman. I would give the pamor as ngulit semangka, I can see no characteristics that would indicate a Mataram style blade. In my opinion this blade is probably of East Jawa origin.

4th March 2010, 01:04 PM	#6
semar Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 272	thank you