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Old 1st September 2013, 12:01 PM   #1
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I have a question that perhaps Albert himself can offer insight in to or those more learned in Keris than I.

Page 64, figure 205, a Keris Panjang from the Williem Van Der Post's collection seen in Traditional Weapons of the Indonesian Archipelago.

Are other type of this Panjang known? I ask as the hilt appears to be that of a Jono from Batak Sumarta. Is this a Panjang specific to the regions of Batak?

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Old 1st September 2013, 01:15 PM   #2
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I have a question that perhaps Albert himself can offer insight in to or those more learned in Keris than I.

Page 64, figure 205, a Keris Panjang for the collection of Williem Van Der Post's collection seen in Traditional Weapons of the Indonesian Archipelago.

Are other type of this Panjang known? I ask as the hilt appears to be that of a Jono from Batak Sumarta. Is this a Panjang specific to the regions of Batak?

Gavin
Hello Gavin,

the Batak normally don't have had keris. The hilt form seems to be a planar tapak kuda form. Look also here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=tapak+kuda

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Old 1st September 2013, 02:08 PM   #3
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Thank you for reply Detlef.

I had viewed this link closely when searching through Sumatran Keris hilts but I did not find what I am looking for...the Keris hilt in Zonneveld also seems to be four or six sided with silver wrapping rather than a cup...quite a mystery...I hope this develops further.

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Old 2nd September 2013, 07:18 PM   #4
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I agree with Gavin that the hilt and cup of Willem's keris seems to have traits of Karo Batak influence.
As a reference, check the Krisdisk of Sejr-Jensen 9,3:16.

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Old 3rd September 2013, 08:33 AM   #5
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Michael, thank you for posting.

I am not versed in this reference and will endevour to obtain a copy for future reference.
If you find the time, could you photograph the reference from your computer screen when running the disk?

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Gavin, this CD is a must if you are interested in keris from all over the archipelago (and not only Java).
Here is copy of the page I was referring to.

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