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Old 19th June 2014, 12:31 PM   #1
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A friend has just sent these ( awful ) pictures of a swivel gun he found in a building he has bought . Lucky chap !
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Old 19th June 2014, 03:05 PM   #2
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Possibly a harpoon or line throwing gun?
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Old 19th June 2014, 03:26 PM   #3
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no , I dont think so , I am sure it is a French swivel gun from the late 18th C .. here is a picture from Gilkerson of the same with the flintlock mechanism in place
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Old 19th June 2014, 06:17 PM   #4
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Michel Brézin (1758-1828) was an important French canon manufacturer, with foundries in Paris and Normandy, operating since the 1790’s and a major supplier of guns to the French military during the Revolutionary and Napoleonic eras. I believe that in French the term perrier for these swivel guns is more common than espingole, although the latter is also used, but the main meaning is blunderbuss. This particular piece was made in 1812 (as per the inscription), was there an An IX (1800-01) model?
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Michel Brézin (1758-1828) was an important French canon manufacturer, with foundries in Paris and Normandy, operating since the 1790’s and a major supplier of guns to the French military during the Revolutionary and Napoleonic eras. I believe that in French the term perrier for these swivel guns is more common than espingole, although the latter is also used, but the main meaning is blunderbuss. This particular piece was made in 1812 (as per the inscription), was there an An IX (1800-01) model?
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Yes , very interesting Andreas , I say An IX simply because as you can see in the pic from Gilkerson , that is what he ID s it as . An IX is around 1802 isnt it ?
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Yes , very interesting Andreas , I say An IX simply because as you can see in the pic from Gilkerson , that is what he ID s it as . An IX is around 1802 isnt it ?
As Andreas says and also readable in the book, An IX (of the revolution)corresponds to 1800/1801. Interesting is that that this type of gun already existed prior to that; An IX was the year in which t was redesigned.
Peculiar gun, one should say
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no , I dont think so , I am sure it is a French swivel gun from the late 18th C .. here is a picture from Gilkerson of the same with the flintlock mechanism in place
Hello. Could you tell me title of this book please?

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Hello. Could you tell me title of this book please?

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Hi Dave,
Boarders Away by William Gilkerson.
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Old 20th June 2021, 08:37 PM   #9
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I just bid on one of these in a London auction several months ago. needless to say, I didn't even come close to winning! Just like this example from the old thread, t was missing it's flintlock mechanism, which I'm told is as rare as the gun itself!

BTW, Thinreadline, does your friend still have this piece? Still not interested in selling?

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Old 19th June 2014, 08:05 PM   #10
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A friend has just sent these ( awful ) pictures of a swivel gun he found in a building he has bought . Lucky chap !
I don't know about "awful". Those picture gave me a good chuckle.


Why don't I ever find something like that?
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...Why don't I ever find something like that?
Each one gets what he deserves
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Oh s--t !!!



P.S. Great gun I wonder where in the house it was found.

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Oh s--t !!!



P.S. Great gun I wonder where in the house it was found.

Well Norman . apparently it was a Kardomah Coffee House ! I have spent a lot of time in coffee houses and never found anything more exciting than a plastic butter knife !
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Old 20th June 2014, 04:58 AM   #14
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Unbelievable!!!! I could only be so lucky! I've been trying to land a swivel gun over the past decade and here we have a chap that finds one in a deserted building!! I think I'll take up renovating- Very nice naval piece, BTW.
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Old 20th June 2014, 06:46 PM   #15
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Well Norman . apparently it was a Kardomah Coffee House ! I have spent a lot of time in coffee houses and never found anything more exciting than a plastic butter knife !
Hi,
You'll never guess, I've found another book that definitely identifies this object as an old style mass produced French coffee grinder and believe it or not I've just got a new kitchen and the one thing I'm lacking is, you guessed it, a coffee grinder. Now, after much deliberation and no mean physical effort I've levered open the sporran and there are twenty one shiny new shillings, THAT'S A WHOLE GUINEA!!!, waiting to be spent on or according to the wife squandered on this rusty old French coffee grinder. Ye might think my name is Carnegie offering all that money but a'm just a poor wee Scotsman in dire need of a coffee grinder.
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