Curved Kinjal ? Any good ?

katana · 1st June 2007, 09:07 PM

Hi, just acquired this Kingal, not so certain about the age ...seems OK though.
Is it a reasonable basic example.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...DME:L:RTQ:UK:1

Lew · 1st June 2007, 09:25 PM

It sure looks like a jambiya to me and not a kindjal. Her is one I owned some time ago which is more kindjalish

than the one you have

I like yours and would place it late 19th or early 20th century the scabbard looks Balkin or Kurdish to me.

Lew

katana · 2nd June 2007, 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LOUIEBLADES

It sure looks like a jambiya to me and not a kindjal. Her is one I owned some time ago which is more kindjalish

than the one you have

Lew

Hi Lew and thanks,
for some reason I....like the seller....ID'ed it as a Kindjal... me because of the kindjalish

( nice technical term Lew) hilt. Still, hopefully its better than the picture. Kronckew's Kard (another thread) came from the same source and looks like a nice example

Thats a nice knife Lew

, so now the quest is to find a 'proper' Kindjal

Regards David

kronckew · 2nd June 2007, 07:24 AM

i always think of mine as a bendy kindjal

because of the grips studded on one side. guess they are a form of jambiya, but as i do not like yemeni or arabian jambiya, i'll have difficulty of thinking its related to one of these:

saw quite a few of them in saudi shops in al khobar and dammam over the years, always thought they were crude & overdressed....and the silver is a bi**h to keep clean. (i gather there are a few better shops in riyadh but i never got that far west)

Jim McDougall · 2nd June 2007, 05:52 PM

OK guys,
I think your bendy sort of kindjalish dagger has a blade that looks sort of Black Sea yataghanish (although daggerish size)with the subtle recurve

and the hilt looks kind of Kurdish-ish. Since the Black Sea 'yataghans' ( also Laz bichagi) are also identified as Kurdish-Armenian, maybe this might be Kurdish-Armenianish janbiyya?

Best regards,
Jim

spiral · 3rd June 2007, 09:03 PM

Kronc, to me it looks typical of a ww2 or earlier Bedouin Shibria or shibrya Ive had quite a few & lots of them were fairly much identicle to yours.

They usualy turn up around the Lebanon, Israel, Palestine, Jordan, Syria & sinai area

They are related to Jambia in a way but I often wonder if they were originaly made from tips of yataghan bayonets?

Ive still got a couple but ones a silver & nielo scabbard & grip & a brass wrapped one with a blade made from a file, but they have the 2 prong top rather than the triangle tip of yours. But many have the triangle tip as well.

Spiral

1st June 2007, 09:07 PM	#1
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	Curved Kinjal ? Any good ? Hi, just acquired this Kingal, not so certain about the age ...seems OK though. Is it a reasonable basic example. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...DME:L:RTQ:UK:1 Attached Images

1st June 2007, 09:25 PM	#2
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	It sure looks like a jambiya to me and not a kindjal. Her is one I owned some time ago which is more kindjalish than the one you have I like yours and would place it late 19th or early 20th century the scabbard looks Balkin or Kurdish to me. Lew Attached Images Last edited by LOUIEBLADES; 1st June 2007 at 09:58 PM.

2nd June 2007, 07:24 AM	#4
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,178	i always think of mine as a bendy kindjal because of the grips studded on one side. guess they are a form of jambiya, but as i do not like yemeni or arabian jambiya, i'll have difficulty of thinking its related to one of these: saw quite a few of them in saudi shops in al khobar and dammam over the years, always thought they were crude & overdressed....and the silver is a bi**h to keep clean. (i gather there are a few better shops in riyadh but i never got that far west)

2nd June 2007, 05:52 PM	#5
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,940	OK guys, I think your bendy sort of kindjalish dagger has a blade that looks sort of Black Sea yataghanish (although daggerish size)with the subtle recurve and the hilt looks kind of Kurdish-ish. Since the Black Sea 'yataghans' ( also Laz bichagi) are also identified as Kurdish-Armenian, maybe this might be Kurdish-Armenianish janbiyya? Best regards, Jim

3rd June 2007, 09:03 PM	#6
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Kronc, to me it looks typical of a ww2 or earlier Bedouin Shibria or shibrya Ive had quite a few & lots of them were fairly much identicle to yours. They usualy turn up around the Lebanon, Israel, Palestine, Jordan, Syria & sinai area They are related to Jambia in a way but I often wonder if they were originaly made from tips of yataghan bayonets? Ive still got a couple but ones a silver & nielo scabbard & grip & a brass wrapped one with a blade made from a file, but they have the 2 prong top rather than the triangle tip of yours. But many have the triangle tip as well. Spiral