Sabre with unknown origins

kronckew · 30th June 2018, 07:39 AM

Acquired by a friend of mine, we can't decide where it comes from, or it's age. Any comments appreciated, especially if anyone can read the Kufic style calligraphy on the blade. We suspect from the clipped point it comes from the southern Russian (Cossack?) areas near Turkey that were influenced by the Turks and Islamic weaponry. Thanks for any comments.

kronckew · 1st July 2018, 08:50 AM

Ah, well. Owner found an independent source of ID. Turns out the shamshir's got the Afghani royal crest on it, and on the other side is the master armorer’s mark in kufi calligraphy, with reference to Kabul. It was probably made during the reign of Nadir Shah 1929-1939. looks like only 100 were made...

Sajen · 1st July 2018, 10:38 AM

Maybe the thread should get moved to the ethnograhic section to get some more response!?

kronckew · 1st July 2018, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

Maybe the thread should get moved to the ethnograhic section to get some more response!?

Probably,

Also have someone telling me it's more likey from the 1890's...

If Fernando can move it...

AJ1356 · 3rd July 2018, 01:13 AM

From your poor quality pictures I can read;کار خانه کابل Kar Khanah e Kabul, 1312. I did not see the seal maybe it is there.

kronckew · 3rd July 2018, 06:13 AM

Thanks, that is 1895 in our calendar. I'll have him send me better photos when it arrives. the photo was resized from an auction house pic.

30th June 2018, 07:39 AM	#1
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,181	Sabre with unknown origins Acquired by a friend of mine, we can't decide where it comes from, or it's age. Any comments appreciated, especially if anyone can read the Kufic style calligraphy on the blade. We suspect from the clipped point it comes from the southern Russian (Cossack?) areas near Turkey that were influenced by the Turks and Islamic weaponry. Thanks for any comments. Attached Images

1st July 2018, 08:50 AM	#2
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,181	Ah, well. Owner found an independent source of ID. Turns out the shamshir's got the Afghani royal crest on it, and on the other side is the master armorer’s mark in kufi calligraphy, with reference to Kabul. It was probably made during the reign of Nadir Shah 1929-1939. looks like only 100 were made...

1st July 2018, 10:38 AM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,766	Maybe the thread should get moved to the ethnograhic section to get some more response!?

3rd July 2018, 01:13 AM	#5
AJ1356 Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Nashville Posts: 314	From your poor quality pictures I can read;کار خانه کابل Kar Khanah e Kabul, 1312. I did not see the seal maybe it is there.

3rd July 2018, 06:13 AM	#6
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,181	Thanks, that is 1895 in our calendar. I'll have him send me better photos when it arrives. the photo was resized from an auction house pic.