Wilah nr 1

Harley · 5th January 2012, 01:28 PM

Hope these pictures are better for identification, the wilah is 36 cm without the pesi.

regards,
Ben

A. G. Maisey · 5th January 2012, 09:34 PM

Thanks Harley, these pics are good and make it easy to see what we're looking at, however, there is just one small thing that they still need, correct orientation.

I have posted your pics again, after I have changed them to what I need to see. I do this with most pics that are posted to this discussion group, before I comment on them, this time I've reposted them so that we can all see what is needed in order to form some sort of possibly legitimate opinion.

Thank you for the pic of the top of the gonjo. This is very useful.

I believe that this blade is classifiable as Koripan. Koripan is a blacksmith's village near Jogja and the keris they used to produce have the characteristics of Mataram Sultan Agung, but are much more crude and unrefined. Dealers in Indonesia will very often present these blades as Mataram S. A. because they figure nobody can tell the difference, but anybody who has handled a genuinely old M'ram blade will tell the difference in a moment. This keris of yours is possibly first half of the 19th century.

Harley · 5th January 2012, 09:50 PM

Sorry about the orientation, Detlef mentioned it before

Thank you very much Alan, that is more information then i had expected!
I am gonna save this information together with a picture of this wilah so i won't lose it.

regards,
Ben

A. G. Maisey · 5th January 2012, 11:45 PM

I find that if I limit the longest dimension of an image to 600 pixels, that permits a correctly orientated image to be posted upright in a single screen, making it unnecessary to change the orientation or scroll down to see the image.

5th January 2012, 01:28 PM	#1
Harley Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nederland Posts: 83	Wilah nr 1 Hope these pictures are better for identification, the wilah is 36 cm without the pesi. regards, Ben Attached Images

5th January 2012, 09:34 PM	#2
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,897	Thanks Harley, these pics are good and make it easy to see what we're looking at, however, there is just one small thing that they still need, correct orientation. I have posted your pics again, after I have changed them to what I need to see. I do this with most pics that are posted to this discussion group, before I comment on them, this time I've reposted them so that we can all see what is needed in order to form some sort of possibly legitimate opinion. Thank you for the pic of the top of the gonjo. This is very useful. I believe that this blade is classifiable as Koripan. Koripan is a blacksmith's village near Jogja and the keris they used to produce have the characteristics of Mataram Sultan Agung, but are much more crude and unrefined. Dealers in Indonesia will very often present these blades as Mataram S. A. because they figure nobody can tell the difference, but anybody who has handled a genuinely old M'ram blade will tell the difference in a moment. This keris of yours is possibly first half of the 19th century. Attached Images

5th January 2012, 09:50 PM	#3
Harley Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Nederland Posts: 83	Sorry about the orientation, Detlef mentioned it before Thank you very much Alan, that is more information then i had expected! I am gonna save this information together with a picture of this wilah so i won't lose it. regards, Ben

5th January 2012, 11:45 PM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,897	I find that if I limit the longest dimension of an image to 600 pixels, that permits a correctly orientated image to be posted upright in a single screen, making it unnecessary to change the orientation or scroll down to see the image.