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An iron guard, with only the grip in bone, which must have been a replacement long, long ago; pommel peen looks intact. The pas d'ane not just residual; we can easily introduce the finger in it. Interesting that the quillon end (an acorn?) is bent to the side, looking however to have been born like that; some meaning to it ?
The blade wirh a lenticular ricasso and a perfect double fuller in the first third. Its length large enough to be considered fit for fighting; 86 cms. width 18 mm. Thickness 6 mm. Weight 532 grams. The date, i would say, would still fall into 18th century. Could you Genlemen guess on a origin of this sword, based on the above pictures and details. Thank you in dvance. . |
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Blade seems to me like a Couleaux product from middle XIXth century. There is no point on having a long ricasso after the pas d'ane.
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Thanks much for your (edited) input
![]() ... I was going nuts with that Chateau-Renault thing ! Let me see ... Long ricassos are not needed in swords with pas d'ane. This (lenticular) one measures 3,5 cms.; i will not pretend that this part is there for decoration, like a smith's whim; just like pas d'anes are, in many examples. On the other hand, if i follow your thoughts, this blade was mounted in this small sword hilt at a later stage ... just like the bone grip. But being a Coleaux product shouldn't it have some inscriptions, as is their habit ? - |
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Sorry for the mess. I wrote Chateaurenault instead of Chatellerault but that did not seem correct. Of course it should have been Klingenthal.
I have one of those two channeled blades mounted with a XIXth century copy of a XVI th century hispano-flemish hilt. The Couleux inscription was erased but not beyond recognition. I take notice for the long ricassos... never say never... Originally they were for all kind of dress sword shortly after Napoleon III. This one is for medical staff. |
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Well elucidated, thank you. I never realized that such operational looking blade was so modern; and at least about a century younger than the guard where it is now mounted.
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