Old File Bladed shibriya for comment

Atlantia · 19th September 2010, 04:42 PM

Quite a rough thing but seems to have good age (well for one of these!)
Blade is clearly a file, good thick and sharp, with a central spine.
Scabbard and hilt have been recently polished to a high shine sadly, but good patina in recesses.
Unusual hilt shape, any thoughts?
Hilt is Horn with silver sheet covering. Central sheet has niello decoration.
Must add, might no keep it, so throwing it open for comments before I make a final decision on its fate!

Atlantia · 21st September 2010, 06:58 PM

Bump! No comments?

spiral · 21st September 2010, 09:46 PM

I think at least with the one made from a file we know there more likely "real" Rather than the the mild steel, place marked & dated tourist examples we so often see.

Hilt shape looks fairly common to me? at least both the ones Ive kept are that shape. Ones made from a file as well. The others silver & nielo scabbard & hilt. Ive only erver had 4 or 5 of these, the others had " single peaked" tops rather than the double peak.

I think the lanyard type ring should be on the front not the back though?

Ill do photos of mine in the morning, for you to compare.

Spiral

Atlantia · 21st September 2010, 10:58 PM

Brilliant! Cheers Spiral

spiral · 22nd September 2010, 01:25 PM

Here we go....

The brass one has a lovely & unusual almst luminescant light lime green shade to its horn grip, which the photos dont realy capture.

There interesting pieces I think?

Spiral

Atlantia · 22nd September 2010, 08:31 PM

Thanks Spiral, thats a really nice pair you have there!
I see what you mean about the lanyard ring, I'll flip that round.
Strange I've not seen these 'twin horned' ones before.
Whats the significance of the different hilt (compared with the standard touristy ones that are so common)?

These file blades are interesting, I take it they pre-date WW2 (before leaf springs and other better materials became commonplace)?

Nice to have two so different examples too, which do you prefer?

Best
Gene

19th September 2010, 04:42 PM	#1
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Old File Bladed shibriya for comment Quite a rough thing but seems to have good age (well for one of these!) Blade is clearly a file, good thick and sharp, with a central spine. Scabbard and hilt have been recently polished to a high shine sadly, but good patina in recesses. Unusual hilt shape, any thoughts? Hilt is Horn with silver sheet covering. Central sheet has niello decoration. Must add, might no keep it, so throwing it open for comments before I make a final decision on its fate! Last edited by Atlantia; 19th September 2010 at 06:15 PM.

21st September 2010, 06:58 PM	#2
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Bump! No comments?

21st September 2010, 09:46 PM	#3
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	I think at least with the one made from a file we know there more likely "real" Rather than the the mild steel, place marked & dated tourist examples we so often see. Hilt shape looks fairly common to me? at least both the ones Ive kept are that shape. Ones made from a file as well. The others silver & nielo scabbard & hilt. Ive only erver had 4 or 5 of these, the others had " single peaked" tops rather than the double peak. I think the lanyard type ring should be on the front not the back though? Ill do photos of mine in the morning, for you to compare. Spiral

21st September 2010, 10:58 PM	#4
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Brilliant! Cheers Spiral

22nd September 2010, 01:25 PM	#5
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Here we go.... The brass one has a lovely & unusual almst luminescant light lime green shade to its horn grip, which the photos dont realy capture. There interesting pieces I think? Spiral

22nd September 2010, 08:31 PM	#6
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Thanks Spiral, thats a really nice pair you have there! I see what you mean about the lanyard ring, I'll flip that round. Strange I've not seen these 'twin horned' ones before. Whats the significance of the different hilt (compared with the standard touristy ones that are so common)? These file blades are interesting, I take it they pre-date WW2 (before leaf springs and other better materials became commonplace)? Nice to have two so different examples too, which do you prefer? Best Gene