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Old 16th May 2005, 04:37 PM   #1
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Question A congolese spear tip, but which tribe?

Hello guys, I have this spear tip that is congolese, but i don't know the tribe. Could you help me? Length 80 cm, maximum width 7 cm. Thank you
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Old 17th May 2005, 09:24 PM   #2
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Hi Flavio,

This is definitively a spear blade from the Ngbandi tribe in Congo.

Here is a picture from the book 'Iron work from Central Africa' by H. Westerdijk. Unfortunately only available in the Dutch language.



Your spear blade is similar to the one in the top row, second from the left.

For those interested, these spear blades are attributed to :

A - Ngbandi
B - Ngbandi
C - Ngbandi and Bati
D - Ngbandi, Yakoma,Ngombe, Bati, Ngbaka

All these spear blades were used in the Northwestern part of Congo and were traded over a large area and used by different tribes. These were used for thrusting, but also as a means of showing ones wealth.
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Old 17th May 2005, 11:06 PM   #3
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Thank you very much Freddy, your help is fundamental as usual
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Old 18th May 2005, 03:51 AM   #4
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The areas of the shaft and butt on the illustration Freddy has posted are fundamental as well, with many, particularly on Ebay, showing up on a plain wooden shaft while being listed as "authentic and complete".
Freddy has been inspirational in helping me to ID spears and spearheads, as well as restoring others.....it's amazing how many "spearheads" that show up are really the other end entirely!
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Old 18th May 2005, 11:29 AM   #5
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Question Another spear tip

Hello friends, here another spear point (sorry for the bad picture). Mine is the first pic and the second i have found on the web and it's identical to mine. I think Mangbetu, but I don't know it with certainty. Please help me
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Old 18th May 2005, 11:51 AM   #6
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According to the book I mentioned above, these barbed spear head come from tribes in the northern part of the area occupied by the Zande tribe in Congo (close to the border with South Sudan). The Mangbetu also have barbed spear heads. But..with Mangbetu spears the spear heads are quite small.

These were used for light throwing spears. The shaft was a simple wooden stick, sometimes with som iron banding at the end (as counter balance).

I'll put some pics of other Ngbandi spears on the forum tomorrow.
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