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Greetings folks.
Rarely do I have much to contribute or ask on this side of the forum, but today I do. I need your help on identification of this piece - from where, age, purpose, and anything else you see and can help. The dress is gold, the wood has flashing grains, and the selut is brass. I figure that the blade is older than the rest. Thank you. |
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I dunno, it doesn't look Malay (peninsula) to me. Certainly Bugis and i would probably place it in Sulawesi, though admittedly i have had trouble sussing out the nuances from Bugis keris from one location to another.
Better shots of the hilt might reveal more as i can't really get a good grasp of it's proportions in these photos. I'm not quite sure what kind of answer you are looking for in terms of purpose. Are you sure the fittings on the sheath are solid gold, not plate? |
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Here are pictures of the hilt, and an emblem on the back of the scabbard that sort of looks like the name "Allah" or perhaps a bismallah.
I will try to test the metal tomorrow and let you know my findings. |
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After seeing the hilt i am still inclined towards Sulawesi.
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The 2nd pic is a calligraphy of "Allah" and "Muhammad", inter-weaved. The 'Muhammad' is a little stylized. |
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Here i include this picture as a comparison to your keris. and i agree with David that the blade looks a bugis sulawesi. also my blade is buginesse and it was found in sumbawa ,the warangka ,hilt & buntut are ivory. The pendhok ( metal on the sarung ) is solid gold ; 20 K. Thanks, Ganja iras |
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Ok just tested the metal - it's gold plated brass.
![]() This is the last piece of information I can think of. So we know it is Sulawesi Bugis. Since this is gold plated, I guess this is recent (except the blade) and that this is not for nobility. Would this be then a pusaka piece? Last edited by Battara; 14th November 2013 at 04:00 AM. |
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Hello,
From the pictures the blade seems old but of common quality (indistinct pamor) and the nice pendok has a contemporary design. The hilt looks old and not Minang IMO but it has a specific design (mix Jawa Deman/ pengulu) probably from East Sumatra but other opinions are welcome. Best regards |
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Ok.....so.........how common are these gilt dressed keris?
If it is in gilt dress, does this mean it is a pusaka piece? |
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Is it gilt, or is it gold plate? There is a difference.
My guess is that this is gold plate. Both are pretty common and at least in Jawa relate more to the owner's wishes than to any regal or vice regal association. I do not know about what might apply in other places. |
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