Heinrich Kolle

Triarii · 7th July 2022, 06:26 PM

Hello,

I am excitedly awaiting delivery of a sword tomorrow which has the blade stamped to one Heinrich Kolle along with a Passau wolf of Solingen. The hilt is mid C17th English.

I can't find anything on Mr Kolle at all. Anyone have any information?

fernando · 7th July 2022, 06:42 PM

Triarii, try and look for Heinrich Koll ... not Kolle

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Jim McDougall · 8th July 2022, 01:31 AM

James Mann mentions Enrique Coll (as marked in Toledo) as possibly Heinrich Koel of Solingen (Wallace coll. 1962, p.298).

In "European Makers of Edged Weapons and Thier Marks" by Staffan Kinman (p.18) it is noted that Heinrich (Enrique) Col who was a smith for the Royal Court in Toledo in first half of 17th c. and also worked in Solingen.

On p. 47 a Heinrich Kohl (elder) is listed 1580-1620 and using crucifix and deer as marks.

A number of Solingen makers did work in Toledo as well, which as can be seen further complicated the spellings, however it may be presumed that they meant the same individual, the spurious application of makers names notwithstanding.

Triarii · 8th July 2022, 03:00 PM

Thankyou both. I'll try all of the spellings.

The international trade in blades and swords in the C17th interests me.
I have a Pappenheimer (usually North German in style) which has a very Toledo looking blade mark (shield with an indistinct letter in it and a crown over), so German hilt and Spanish blade.

I have ordered Staffan Kinman's book from the US, so will await its journey across the Atlantic.

fernando · 8th July 2022, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triarii

... I have a Pappenheimer (usually North German in style) which has a very Toledo looking blade mark (shield with an indistinct letter in it and a crown over)...

Can we see it ?

Triarii · 11th July 2022, 01:36 PM

Here are some photos. Best I can do. At higher res they get more indistinct.
Same mark either side of the ricasso, just tried different angles to photograph it.

7th July 2022, 06:26 PM	#1
Triarii Member Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: Bristol Posts: 113	Heinrich Kolle Hello, I am excitedly awaiting delivery of a sword tomorrow which has the blade stamped to one Heinrich Kolle along with a Passau wolf of Solingen. The hilt is mid C17th English. I can't find anything on Mr Kolle at all. Anyone have any information? Attached Images

7th July 2022, 06:42 PM	#2
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Triarii, try and look for Heinrich Koll ... not Kolle .

8th July 2022, 01:31 AM	#3
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,947	James Mann mentions Enrique Coll (as marked in Toledo) as possibly Heinrich Koel of Solingen (Wallace coll. 1962, p.298). In "European Makers of Edged Weapons and Thier Marks" by Staffan Kinman (p.18) it is noted that Heinrich (Enrique) Col who was a smith for the Royal Court in Toledo in first half of 17th c. and also worked in Solingen. On p. 47 a Heinrich Kohl (elder) is listed 1580-1620 and using crucifix and deer as marks. A number of Solingen makers did work in Toledo as well, which as can be seen further complicated the spellings, however it may be presumed that they meant the same individual, the spurious application of makers names notwithstanding.

8th July 2022, 03:00 PM	#4
Triarii Member Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: Bristol Posts: 113	Thankyou both. I'll try all of the spellings. The international trade in blades and swords in the C17th interests me. I have a Pappenheimer (usually North German in style) which has a very Toledo looking blade mark (shield with an indistinct letter in it and a crown over), so German hilt and Spanish blade. I have ordered Staffan Kinman's book from the US, so will await its journey across the Atlantic.

11th July 2022, 01:36 PM	#6
Triarii Member Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: Bristol Posts: 113	Here are some photos. Best I can do. At higher res they get more indistinct. Same mark either side of the ricasso, just tried different angles to photograph it.