A poll or vote for recommended books on weapon collecting

katana · 9th November 2006, 10:55 PM

After reading several threads about 'poor' litrature on weapon collecting etc may I suggest Formites recommend books, that others can rate. Perhaps a poll, I am sure that it is in all our interests since 'mis-informed litrature' is damaging to the 'brotherhood of ethnic weapon collectors'. Both , in us buying pieces believing they are 'authentic' and sellers setting crazy prices for 'poor quality' weapons that have suddenly become 'priceless'.Hopefully, not only will you save other member's money but prevent publishers 'churning out' rubbish (or should I more accurately say ...sh*#)

What do you think?

Andrew · 9th November 2006, 11:59 PM

I like the idea, Katana. This has been attempted a couple times over the years, but I fear it's a daunting task, really.

http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000035.html

http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001722.html

VANDOO · 10th November 2006, 12:30 AM

MOST POSTS IN THE PAST HAVE DEALT WITH REFRENCE BOOKS MEMBERS RECOMEND. THERE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSIONS OF SOME OF THE ERRORS IN THE BOOKS BUT MOST ERRORS WERE NOT DUE TO SLOPPY RESEARCH BUT USED THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE AT THE TIME WHICH WAS THE BEST THEY COULD GET. AS WE GET MORE INFORMATION THINGS WE HAVE BELEIVED TO BE TRUE IN THE DISTANT PAST CAN BE PROVED WRONG. GATHERING INFORMATION FROM DIFFERENT SOURCES,GROUPS, TIMES AND REGIONS CAN ALSO CAUSE MISUNDERSTANDINGS EVEN THOUGH BOTH RESEARCHERS ARE CORRECT BUT NEITHER ONE HAS THE FULL STORY.

I HOPE THE BOOK TWO OF US HAVE BEEN BURNED ON IS NOT SOMETHING WE WILL SEE A LOT OF IN THE FUTURE. IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA IF THOSE PREPARING TO PUBLISH A REFRENCE BOOK ON A SUBJECT THEY ARE NOT EXPERT IN COULD LET SOME OF OUR MEMBERS VERY KNOWLEGABLE IN THE FIELD COVERED REVIEW THE BOOK AND GIVE AN OPINION AND RECOMENDATIONS. THE BOOKS WE HAVE RECOMENDED OR WARNED OF IN PAST POSTS IS A KIND OF REVIEW AND SHOWS WHAT WE REGARD AS GOOD SOURCES OF REFRENCE.

B.I · 10th November 2006, 12:30 AM

i think this is also a great idea. if a poll could be used (like the age one) where we could all offer potential books to be listed, and then individually vote whether it is good or bad. this way, we avoid discussions and controversy, and just get a simple yes or no. there are many books outside india that i have considered, but dont know whether they are worth buying. this would help if someone knows (and can be inclined) to set it up.

katana · 10th November 2006, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by B.I

if a poll could be used (like the age one) where we could all offer potential books to be listed, and then individually vote whether it is good or bad. .

Exactly BI ....perhaps a grading system from rubbish to excellent

Lew · 10th November 2006, 04:00 PM

My Idea is to create our own book and include pieces from a number of collections considering our formites have the most extensive knowlege and collections of fine old items. The profits from the sale of the book should go to various charities in the third world countries since many of the items in our collections originated from there.

Lew

katana · 10th November 2006, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LOUIEBLADES

My Idea is to create our own book and include pieces from a number of collections considering our formites have the most extensive knowlege and collections of fine old items. The profits from the sale of the book should go to various charities in the third world countries since many of the items in our collections originated from there.

Lew

NICE IDEA LEW,.........would take alot of organizing

utami · 14th November 2006, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by LOUIEBLADES

My Idea is to create our own book and include pieces from a number of collections considering our formites have the most extensive knowlege and collections of fine old items. The profits from the sale of the book should go to various charities in the third world countries since many of the items in our collections originated from there.

Lew

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Originally Posted by katana

NICE IDEA LEW,.........would take alot of organizing

Strongly Agree with Loui here

i've visited, taking note & picture from some museum in java that have edge weapon collection ( indonesia tradisional weaponry ) Most of them is very old, unique, rare to find items. And i've interviewed & discussed some of the finest blacksmith in aceh, java, east kalimantan ( borneo ) related to tradisional weaponry & making. This is my personal intrest to study the pattern and style of blade and scabbard and revive the almost extinct tradisional weapon.

if i may, i would like contribute all the works that i've done to this idea. i'll release all the information that i have to forum, so the other member perhaps could add more information base on their knowledge & collection.

just my 2 cents

9th November 2006, 10:55 PM	#1
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	A poll or vote for recommended books on weapon collecting After reading several threads about 'poor' litrature on weapon collecting etc may I suggest Formites recommend books, that others can rate. Perhaps a poll, I am sure that it is in all our interests since 'mis-informed litrature' is damaging to the 'brotherhood of ethnic weapon collectors'. Both , in us buying pieces believing they are 'authentic' and sellers setting crazy prices for 'poor quality' weapons that have suddenly become 'priceless'.Hopefully, not only will you save other member's money but prevent publishers 'churning out' rubbish (or should I more accurately say ...sh*#) What do you think?

9th November 2006, 11:59 PM	#2
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	I like the idea, Katana. This has been attempted a couple times over the years, but I fear it's a daunting task, really. http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000035.html http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001722.html

10th November 2006, 12:30 AM	#3
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	MOST POSTS IN THE PAST HAVE DEALT WITH REFRENCE BOOKS MEMBERS RECOMEND. THERE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSIONS OF SOME OF THE ERRORS IN THE BOOKS BUT MOST ERRORS WERE NOT DUE TO SLOPPY RESEARCH BUT USED THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE AT THE TIME WHICH WAS THE BEST THEY COULD GET. AS WE GET MORE INFORMATION THINGS WE HAVE BELEIVED TO BE TRUE IN THE DISTANT PAST CAN BE PROVED WRONG. GATHERING INFORMATION FROM DIFFERENT SOURCES,GROUPS, TIMES AND REGIONS CAN ALSO CAUSE MISUNDERSTANDINGS EVEN THOUGH BOTH RESEARCHERS ARE CORRECT BUT NEITHER ONE HAS THE FULL STORY. I HOPE THE BOOK TWO OF US HAVE BEEN BURNED ON IS NOT SOMETHING WE WILL SEE A LOT OF IN THE FUTURE. IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA IF THOSE PREPARING TO PUBLISH A REFRENCE BOOK ON A SUBJECT THEY ARE NOT EXPERT IN COULD LET SOME OF OUR MEMBERS VERY KNOWLEGABLE IN THE FIELD COVERED REVIEW THE BOOK AND GIVE AN OPINION AND RECOMENDATIONS. THE BOOKS WE HAVE RECOMENDED OR WARNED OF IN PAST POSTS IS A KIND OF REVIEW AND SHOWS WHAT WE REGARD AS GOOD SOURCES OF REFRENCE.

10th November 2006, 12:30 AM	#4
B.I Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 485	i think this is also a great idea. if a poll could be used (like the age one) where we could all offer potential books to be listed, and then individually vote whether it is good or bad. this way, we avoid discussions and controversy, and just get a simple yes or no. there are many books outside india that i have considered, but dont know whether they are worth buying. this would help if someone knows (and can be inclined) to set it up.

10th November 2006, 04:00 PM	#6
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	My Idea is to create our own book and include pieces from a number of collections considering our formites have the most extensive knowlege and collections of fine old items. The profits from the sale of the book should go to various charities in the third world countries since many of the items in our collections originated from there. Lew