woven sjambok?

kronckew · 13th May 2016, 12:58 PM

ran across this odd whip. twisted cord monkey fist wrapping over a non-magnetic heavy ball, flat cord or fibre basket-weaved shaft covering, small metal tip ferrule. feel like it may have a whalebone core. there is a slight bend and it is very 'whippy' and very springy. will not support any weight. 34 in. long. (photos attached)

only other similar was a silver hilted sjambok, made from an animal's streched male member, with the same tip and same length. photo attached at bottom.

comments welcome. any idea on the age?

bullwhip · 24th December 2019, 05:23 PM

the top plaited sjambok looks very similar to a Dutch Politie sjambok I had some time ago (I swapped it for a bullwhip but wish I had kept it) it was from the Dutch South afrikan Police in the time of the Apartheid in the 1950s and 60s.
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ariel · 24th December 2019, 11:53 PM

Male member stretched to 34 inches? Humanity lost a porn movie star:-(((

Lee · 25th December 2019, 01:42 AM

Weirdly enough, at a holiday "winter solstice" party just this past Saturday, a friend showed me a leather whip of penile origin and indicated that it was from a bull. Until then I was in blissful ignorance that such a thing existed. Apparently, if I am to believe the internet, in this genus the organ may be 80 to 100 cm long and is 3 to 4 cm in diameter.

kronckew · 25th December 2019, 07:48 AM

Yup, un-tanned, raw 'Bully Sticks' made from the Bull's generative organ are available for dog chews up to 36" online. I imagine that the Rhino/hippo version could be even more substantial.

p.s. usually cut to about 8 in. sections, Dogs love 'em but they really stink!

Mickey the Finn · 15th September 2020, 09:54 AM

The bull's penis, stretched and dried for use as a whip, is properly called a "pizzle", according to the only definition of the word "pizzle" in my biggest English dictionary. [That's my recollection of the gist of how the dictionary read, the last time I consulted it for this particular word, which was very many years ago]. Apparently, the same part of the animal is called the same thing when it's intended for a dog to chew on, based on some, but not all, of the Google search results for "pizzle". Incidentally, nowadays, the bull's penis (when intended as a dog's "chew toy", is also known as a "bully stick". The parallels in meaning between this and my dictionary's definition are remarkable.
And according to Wikipedia: "Pizzle is an old English word for penis, derived from Low German pesel or Flemish Dutch pezel, diminutive of pees, meaning 'sinew'. The word is used today to signify the penis of an animal, chiefly in Australia and New Zealand".
Just in case anyone wanted to know how to properly refer to the thing.
I think the spelling is distinctively uncommon enough to enable the word to evade detection by flesh-and-blood P.C. censors outside Australia and New Zealand, and perhaps keyword finder software programs. Because, at least where I live, the Criminal Code has a section entitled "Crime Comic". Among certain other things, this section makes depictions of sex accompanied by violence a criminal offence. The Criminal Code of the country in which I live includes "Definitions" sections, which specify the meaning a word shall have, in the context of the Criminal Code. The Criminal Code definition of a word takes precedence and/or overrides any dictionary definition of that same word. It's not the word "pizzle" I'm concerned about here. I'm concerned about if and/or how the Criminal Code currently defines "depiction", "sex" and "violence". Because if it isn't defined, a Crown attorney might make a judgement call according to a personal/variable/situationally dependent yardstick. And I'm completely deadpan, stone-faced serious about this.

13th May 2016, 12:58 PM	#1
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,181	woven sjambok? ran across this odd whip. twisted cord monkey fist wrapping over a non-magnetic heavy ball, flat cord or fibre basket-weaved shaft covering, small metal tip ferrule. feel like it may have a whalebone core. there is a slight bend and it is very 'whippy' and very springy. will not support any weight. 34 in. long. (photos attached) only other similar was a silver hilted sjambok, made from an animal's streched male member, with the same tip and same length. photo attached at bottom. comments welcome. any idea on the age? Attached Images

24th December 2019, 05:23 PM	#2
bullwhip Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: lancashire Posts: 2	plaited sjambok the top plaited sjambok looks very similar to a Dutch Politie sjambok I had some time ago (I swapped it for a bullwhip but wish I had kept it) it was from the Dutch South afrikan Police in the time of the Apartheid in the 1950s and 60s. bullwhip

25th December 2019, 07:48 AM	#5
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,181	Yup, un-tanned, raw 'Bully Sticks' made from the Bull's generative organ are available for dog chews up to 36" online. I imagine that the Rhino/hippo version could be even more substantial. p.s. usually cut to about 8 in. sections, Dogs love 'em but they really stink! Attached Images

24th December 2019, 11:53 PM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Male member stretched to 34 inches? Humanity lost a porn movie star:-(((

25th December 2019, 01:42 AM	#4
Lee EAAF Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Upstate New York, USA Posts: 913	Weirdly enough, at a holiday "winter solstice" party just this past Saturday, a friend showed me a leather whip of penile origin and indicated that it was from a bull. Until then I was in blissful ignorance that such a thing existed. Apparently, if I am to believe the internet, in this genus the organ may be 80 to 100 cm long and is 3 to 4 cm in diameter.

15th September 2020, 09:54 AM	#6
Mickey the Finn Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 90	The bull's penis, stretched and dried for use as a whip, is properly called a "pizzle", according to the only definition of the word "pizzle" in my biggest English dictionary. [That's my recollection of the gist of how the dictionary read, the last time I consulted it for this particular word, which was very many years ago]. Apparently, the same part of the animal is called the same thing when it's intended for a dog to chew on, based on some, but not all, of the Google search results for "pizzle". Incidentally, nowadays, the bull's penis (when intended as a dog's "chew toy", is also known as a "bully stick". The parallels in meaning between this and my dictionary's definition are remarkable. And according to Wikipedia: "Pizzle is an old English word for penis, derived from Low German pesel or Flemish Dutch pezel, diminutive of pees, meaning 'sinew'. The word is used today to signify the penis of an animal, chiefly in Australia and New Zealand". Just in case anyone wanted to know how to properly refer to the thing. I think the spelling is distinctively uncommon enough to enable the word to evade detection by flesh-and-blood P.C. censors outside Australia and New Zealand, and perhaps keyword finder software programs. Because, at least where I live, the Criminal Code has a section entitled "Crime Comic". Among certain other things, this section makes depictions of sex accompanied by violence a criminal offence. The Criminal Code of the country in which I live includes "Definitions" sections, which specify the meaning a word shall have, in the context of the Criminal Code. The Criminal Code definition of a word takes precedence and/or overrides any dictionary definition of that same word. It's not the word "pizzle" I'm concerned about here. I'm concerned about if and/or how the Criminal Code currently defines "depiction", "sex" and "violence". Because if it isn't defined, a Crown attorney might make a judgement call according to a personal/variable/situationally dependent yardstick. And I'm completely deadpan, stone-faced serious about this.