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Old 27th August 2008, 06:50 PM   #1
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Default Sumatran Jawa Demam - Anak Ayam Sejuk - Birdman/Garuda?

Here is an old Sumatran keris where the hilt is more twisted than usual, reminding me about the Malay Peninsular Anak Ayam Sejuk.
As you can see this carver never heard about the explanation that the face of the Javanese with fever is below the tanjak-headdress, to recap an old discussion.
What do you think?

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Old 27th August 2008, 09:46 PM   #2
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Sorry Michael
What is the meaning of Anak Ayam Seyuk
and...tanjak
The hit is (IMO) a very nice sumatran hilt ....but mendak ...is more nice
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Old 27th August 2008, 09:58 PM   #3
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Sorry if I was a bit unclear.
The Anak Ayam Sejuk hilt is aka the Pipit Teleng (picture below).
The tanjak is a head-dress.

Here is the old discussion I was referring to

http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001449.html

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Old 27th August 2008, 11:11 PM   #4
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Quote:
nice sumatran hilt ....but mendak ...is more nice

I am afraid the whole keris is a nice one

The hilt is in a pretty upright position indeed.
And the arm wrapped around the body.
Very nice hilt, but indeed a bit odd for a Jawa deman style.
If you want to part with it, just send me a PM
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Old 28th August 2008, 04:31 AM   #5
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maybe this hilt can be called hulu nem neman, carved by an artist with a free mind, thus not restricted to pakem hulu. Just a thought....
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Old 28th August 2008, 06:01 PM   #6
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Maybe "nem neman".
But was there a fixed pakem for non-Javanese hilts?

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