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Can any one of our newer firearms loving members tell me something about this pistol .
I haven't seen a lot of these guns; but I have yet to see another barrel like the one shown . Any help is much appreciated; it's an old family piece . ![]() Last edited by Rick; 9th June 2015 at 05:50 PM. |
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Hi!
I guess that I'm amongst the new friends. I saw your previous post. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...figures+barrel Ok I will tell you all what I know about this kind of gun. I missed few years ago a pair of full brass kubur, with the barrels and the locks completly decorated like yours. They were so strange that i didn't buy them...what a mistake! I have seen this kind of pistols only in the Balkans, but It's impossible for me to tell you if they were Greeks, Bosnians or Albanians. If you observe the frizzen, the long vertical groves are caracteristic from the "Muslim" pistols from the Balkans, the (Christian-orthodox) Greeks prefered the plain frizzen without groves. Some of these pistols reappeared in North Africa, like the pair that I told you, brought from Algeria. As you see, I don't have any answer but some tracks... Best, Kubur |
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Happy you
In my archives, I have on similar to those that I described. |
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Happy me indeed !
![]() I'm very glad at least one other person here has seen such a barrel . Thank you very much Kubur ! I was hoping to gather a little more information since we have many more antique firearms enthusiasts than when I first posted this pistol . Does anyone recognize the stamp under the barrel ? And this barrel having no band/s would have been seated in the stock with some sort of resin/tar ? |
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Hi, One of the marks looks suspiciously like the British Govt. broad arrow acceptance stamp though how this could be as surely the decor must have been cast at the time of manufacture. Perhaps a better image of that mark may be a help. On the other hand I have a Greek kariofili rifle whose barrel has markings for the Mutzig castle armoury in Alsace that I'm pretty sure didn't leave the factory with the incised decoration on the top. I'm of the opinion that the barrel was captured/looted/reused and decorated thus as an 'aftermarket custom job'. Regards, Norman. |
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Hi,
This is a section of one of the guns Kubur posted, it does look like stock removal has been used to create the decoration. Regards, Norman. |
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Hi Rick,
There looks to be the numeral 4 inside the broadarrow, if it is it may be an inspectors stamp. The attached photo is of an P1821 L.C. troopers sword of mine, probably early 1830's, with an inspectors mark. My Regards, Norman. P.S. I can't remember when the broadarrow was introduced by the British War Office. ![]() |
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'28th July 1806. The Board having been pleased to direct that in future all descriptions of Ordnance Stores should be marked with the broad arrow as soon as they shall have been received as fit for His Majesty's Service; all Storekeepers and Deputy Storekeepers and others are desired to cause this order to be accordingly attended to, in the Department under their direction, reporting to the Board in all cases when articles are received to which this mark cannot be applied’
Hi Rick, It was in use before this time but this order defined its use to this day. My Regards, Norman. |
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Rick, I've seen several of these with Serbian inscriptions.
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No thoughts on the Maker's stamping ?
Norman, I'm not sure about the figure being a 4; it is far from clear and very light; in fact it looks more like a 4 in the picture than under magnification by eye . ![]() Serbian; thanks Oliver . ![]() The only other weapon passed down from him was one of those wedding nimchas from N. Africa . ![]() |
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Beautiful gun !!!
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