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Hi friends
Can you advise me about the circled part on the hulu. Is there any meaning to it? And in addition, what is your review about this keris in term of age and quality of the blade and as a whole? Thank you. |
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Hello Anthony,
This is a good, old (19th century?) and classical blade from Bali or more probably Lombok with an old gerantiman style hilt. The tail of the ganja has been apparently damaged/ cut. I will let others comment on the spiral motif on top of the hilt. Regards |
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It is not the answer to your question but I have handled this Gerantim handle and I am 100% sure it is not old but good recent craftsmanship.
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Aside to Paul, could you confirm with me on one thing. Good recent craftsmanship means the hilt only and not the blade. right? |
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IIRC, and often I don't.
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Here a thread where two makers of this specific hilt form, father and son, are mentioned. This one could be the work of father.
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=gerantim Regarding the feature on top of the hilt, Jasper and Mas Pirngadie calls it Liking Pakoe (Paku) and describes it as a "monsterlike" figurine of an animal with tail rolled up. At that time (before 1930) they already couldn't find out the meaning of it and wrote - pepajasan, just an adornment, without symbol value. Jensen compares it with a figure called quadruped of Indra from Majapahit period. On newer Gerantim (like this one) this feature is even more simplified, so perhaps the meaning is completely lost. The blade... just like a Karangasem royal Keris stripped of its Kinatah ![]() |
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I cannot speak to the age of the hilt and have not had the benefit to handle the piece like Paul has, but would it matter to you if this hilt were not antique? It is traditionally made, nicely crafted and appears to be made of precious metal. Dress is routinely updated within keris-bearing societies. I don't believe age would add much value to this hilt IMHO. ![]() |
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Greeting. I just need to know what I am collecting especially it is an important learning stage for me as a newbie, it does not matter if the hilt is antique as long it is a properly made according to the tradition. ![]() |
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Dear all
I just went to the custom today and can only collect back the hilt. It seems that the hilt is in good condition compare to the dealer photos which is misleading. Please see my photo. It is thin sheet of silver covering the internal (wood). No dent whatsoever. Any idea what is the price for this hilt in the market? Just asking. As for the blade, it requires additional level of police clearance due to the length. I have seen it thou. -The gonjo 'modification' is quite well done and smooth but not sure why it was modified. Could it be that it was damaged before and repaired? I will post more photo of the blade if the authority return back to me. Finger cross :P |
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