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Old 16th February 2021, 06:05 PM   #1
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Default Pesh-kabz but from where/when?!

I have some ideas but I would appreciate your input!
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Old 16th February 2021, 06:18 PM   #2
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I have some ideas but I would appreciate your input!
Congratulations, Marius!
Great pesh-kabz! I think this is India. Second half of the 19th century. This is a very good example!
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Old 16th February 2021, 07:23 PM   #3
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I totally agree with Mahratt. Mughal India. Very nice too!
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Old 17th February 2021, 06:37 AM   #4
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Mughal India, yes.

However, from all I know by 19th century the production of quality wootz pretty much stopped in India, and this blade displays a very nice Kara Taban pattern.

So my guess is that it is from around 1800.
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Old 17th February 2021, 06:33 PM   #5
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Mughal India, yes.

However, from all I know by 19th century the production of quality wootz pretty much stopped in India, and this blade displays a very nice Kara Taban pattern.

So my guess is that it is from around 1800.
That is indeed a very nice dagger. Regarding age, the scabbard looks second half of the 19th century to me
As for the wootz very nice for sure. Bur as far as I can tell from books even nicer wootz was made in india up to the late 19th century. In Elgood´s Rajput arms and armour there are several blades of very high quality wootz that he dates to the second half of the 19th century, even late 19th century.
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Old 17th February 2021, 10:37 PM   #6
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That is indeed a very nice dagger. Regarding age, the scabbard looks second half of the 19th century to me
As for the wootz very nice for sure. Bur as far as I can tell from books even nicer wootz was made in india up to the late 19th century. In Elgood´s Rajput arms and armour there are several blades of very high quality wootz that he dates to the second half of the 19th century, even late 19th century.
I believe that these high quality wootz blades were re-mounted in the late 19th century.

Does anyone have precise information when wootz stopped being produced in India?!
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