Fixing grip wires?

celtan · 29th April 2009, 07:18 PM

Hi guys,

I own a beautiful swedish naval saber, possible late 18th or early 19th C. It has both medium and fine size grip wires. The thin ones are all fracturing at the contact area with the back-strap. I don't want to remove/replace them, but when I grab its grip, I fel them crumbling or being bent out of place. I was thinking of a drop of crazy-glue at the fracture site to stabilize and fix them .

Any suggestions?

Best

M

Gavin Nugent · 29th April 2009, 07:30 PM

I don't have any suggestions to fully fix this but I have found over time that the wire, particuarly the fine ones do break. In one instance with success I placed the sword in a vice (gently) with the back strap facing down, proceeded to place some glue under the backstrap where the wire goes through and then pushed the broken fine wire into the groove where the glue was, held it for a couple of minutes and good as new and not seen to detract from the beauty of the piece.
The other suggestion I could make is, no matter how much you enjoy playing naked pirates in your living room, just leave the sword alone and appreciate it from afar, look but do not touch!!!

Gav

celtan · 29th April 2009, 07:56 PM

Ouch! Naked pirates and swords seem to me an injudicious, and potentially painful combination, to put it mildly.

Thanks for the pointer, it does have lots of fractured thin wires. And rest assured, I seldom grab the saber by its grip.

Best

M

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Originally Posted by freebooter

I don't have any suggestions to fully fix this but I have found over time that the wire, particuarly the fine ones do break. In one instance with success I placed the sword in a vice (gently) with the back strap facing down, proceeded to place some glue under the backstrap where the wire goes through and then pushed the broken fine wire into the groove where the glue was, held it for a couple of minutes and good as new and not seen to detract from the beauty of the piece.
The other suggestion I could make is, no matter how much you enjoy playing naked pirates in your living room, just leave the sword alone and appreciate it from afar, look but do not touch!!!

Gav

Tim Simmons · 29th April 2009, 08:15 PM

Depending on how bad the damage? If the wire is simply broken then you could find somebody like a jeweller who has one of these-

http://www.ottofrei.com/store/produc...oductid=17294-

Just micro arc welding really. They should be able to fix the wire. I find it a very handy tool. Not to be used as a hobby thing really.

celtan · 12th June 2009, 05:52 PM

Haven't found any so far...

What do you guys think about using little beads of glue to hold them in place?

Any suggestions on this, or the type of glue?

Best

Manolo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Depending on how bad the damage? If the wire is simply broken then you could find somebody like a jeweller who has one of these-

http://www.ottofrei.com/store/produc...oductid=17294-

Just micro arc welding really. They should be able to fix the wire. I find it a very handy tool. Not to be used as a hobby thing really.

fernando · 12th June 2009, 06:00 PM

I (epoxy) glue mine.
Maybe a crime, collector wise, but an endless solution.
Fernando

29th April 2009, 07:18 PM	#1
celtan Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: PR, USA Posts: 679	Fixing grip wires? Hi guys, I own a beautiful swedish naval saber, possible late 18th or early 19th C. It has both medium and fine size grip wires. The thin ones are all fracturing at the contact area with the back-strap. I don't want to remove/replace them, but when I grab its grip, I fel them crumbling or being bent out of place. I was thinking of a drop of crazy-glue at the fracture site to stabilize and fix them . Any suggestions? Best M

29th April 2009, 07:30 PM	#2
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Look but don't touch I don't have any suggestions to fully fix this but I have found over time that the wire, particuarly the fine ones do break. In one instance with success I placed the sword in a vice (gently) with the back strap facing down, proceeded to place some glue under the backstrap where the wire goes through and then pushed the broken fine wire into the groove where the glue was, held it for a couple of minutes and good as new and not seen to detract from the beauty of the piece. The other suggestion I could make is, no matter how much you enjoy playing naked pirates in your living room, just leave the sword alone and appreciate it from afar, look but do not touch!!! Gav

29th April 2009, 08:15 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,783	Depending on how bad the damage? If the wire is simply broken then you could find somebody like a jeweller who has one of these- http://www.ottofrei.com/store/produc...oductid=17294- Just micro arc welding really. They should be able to fix the wire. I find it a very handy tool. Not to be used as a hobby thing really.

12th June 2009, 06:00 PM	#6
fernando Lead Moderator European Armoury Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	I (epoxy) glue mine. Maybe a crime, collector wise, but an endless solution. Fernando