Ethnographic Arms & Armour
 

Go Back   Ethnographic Arms & Armour > Discussion Forums > Keris Warung Kopi
FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 18th February 2010, 05:39 PM   #1
chregu
Member
 
chregu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: switzerland
Posts: 298
Default one more keris #3

hello together
since the Certificates have to be another keris.
am also looking for this piece all the information I can get, old, origin, style,
........
gruss chregu
Attached Images
    

Last edited by Rick; 19th February 2010 at 08:09 PM.
chregu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18th February 2010, 06:14 PM   #2
danny1976
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Holland
Posts: 245
Default

Hi Chrugu,

This type is what the cal madura keris.

Maybe its brougt back in the 50,s by a soldier.



Regards,

Danny
danny1976 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 18th February 2010, 07:07 PM   #3
Rick
Vikingsword Staff
 
Rick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 6,290
Smile

The wrongko style is called Gabilan if I recall correctly .
Very nice carving .
Rick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th February 2010, 05:15 AM   #4
Marcokeris
Member
 
Marcokeris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Italy
Posts: 928
Default

nice
Marcokeris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th February 2010, 03:34 PM   #5
sirek
Member
 
sirek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 169
Arrow

i have patrem madura keris that has the same characteristics.

total length 31cm/12.2 in.
blade length 17cm/6.7 in.

it has 3 empu "thumbprints"

(comments are welkom)
Attached Images
    
sirek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th February 2010, 06:45 PM   #6
GIO
Member
 
GIO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 313
Default

Sirek,
nice old keris. Hilt and wrangka are worn out as we very seldom see.
Surprisingly the pendok seems to have no bruise.
Unfortunately finger prints are not visible.
The blade seems very rusted in the crack: I would definitely eliminate rust before seeing the blade destroyed.
GIO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th February 2010, 07:02 PM   #7
brekele
Member
 
brekele's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 208
Arrow

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
The wrongko style is called Gabilan if I recall correctly .
Very nice carving .
Maduranese call Deng udengan / Urang urangan for this kind of warangka's style.
brekele is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st February 2010, 06:25 AM   #8
Amuk Murugul
Member
 
Amuk Murugul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Kaboejoetan Galoenggoeng Mélben
Posts: 460
Default

Hullo everybody,

Brekele, a nice nick/handle. German or Eastern Java? If Eastern Java, does it bear any relationship to 'shining' and 'bamboo'? (Just curious )

Best,
Amuk Murugul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st February 2010, 07:38 AM   #9
ronpakis
Member
 
ronpakis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: netherlands
Posts: 75
Default mendak

hello all,

it is probably part of a javanese earstud. a subang or suweng. these earstuds are put together from several parts. this looks like the ring with the stones around the central stone. see the photo. a 'screw' holds the parts normally together. many of them are torn apart for the stones. sometimes diamonds, intan, glass etc. i hope it (photo) is clear enough.

greetings ron
Attached Images
 
ronpakis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21st February 2010, 08:55 PM   #10
brekele
Member
 
brekele's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 208
Arrow

Quote:
Originally Posted by Amuk Murugul
Hullo everybody,

Brekele, a nice nick/handle. German or Eastern Java? If Eastern Java, does it bear any relationship to 'shining' and 'bamboo'? (Just curious )

Best,


This is other example of warangka Deng Udengan (Shape of shrimp) with central carved motif called Rangkerangan (shell & snail?). The hilt’s style is called Tumenggungan , It’s a symbol of Kuda Panuli (Panuli horse).

@Amuk Murugul : I stil dont get it really about your questions.
Attached Images
  
brekele is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th February 2010, 10:23 PM   #11
Sajen
Member
 
Sajen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Germany, Dortmund
Posts: 8,761
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by chregu
hello together
since the Certificates have to be another keris.
am also looking for this piece all the information I can get, old, origin, style,
........
gruss chregu

Hello chregu,

yes it's a Madura keris and the sheat form is called jurigan or gambilihan like Rick write. Keris like this have been discussed already some times here, search for, you will get some more informations. It's good possible that the keris older then from the 50's. Would be nice to see the blade with a fresh warangan again. Here a very similar keris from my collection.

Detlef
Attached Images
 
Sajen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19th February 2010, 11:47 PM   #12
Rick
Vikingsword Staff
 
Rick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 6,290
Thumbs up

Nice examples guys.
I like the Gabilan scabbards; they are so expressive, almost over the top .
I love the detail in well done Madura carving .

A very interesting mendak Sirek; love the wear and the Iras wilah .
Rick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th February 2010, 01:21 PM   #13
sirek
Member
 
sirek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 169
Default

thanks for your comments

it is difficult to capture the "thumbprints" in a picture, (in the red circles)
maybay you can see it better on the picture taken of the side.

The medak cames with te keris, and because I never seen this form before I doubt about it in the first place if it was a real mendak.
But the cup-shape fits good on the hilt, so in my opinion maybe a local artist has given his own inspiration on this one.
Attached Images
    
sirek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th February 2010, 02:58 PM   #14
Rick
Vikingsword Staff
 
Rick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 6,290
Smile

That mendak is actually pretty unusual and nice in my opinion .
No matter that it is missing some stones .

Sirek, since you've had the handle off; what does the end of the pesi look like ?
Rick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th February 2010, 05:09 PM   #15
sirek
Member
 
sirek's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 169
Arrow

this is how the peksi looks like:

the length is 5cm/ 2in.
Attached Images
  
sirek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 20th February 2010, 05:10 PM   #16
David
Keris forum moderator
 
David's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 7,113
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick
Sirek, since you've had the handle off; what does the end of the pesi look like ?
Wondering if it's got a hole in it's end Rick?
Thanks for pointing out the blade is a picit Sirek. You are right, it was hard to notice and i missed that the first time around. I really like this one, though i will second the suggestion that you wash the blade or at least eliminate the rust.
David is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:08 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Posts are regarded as being copyrighted by their authors and the act of posting material is deemed to be a granting of an irrevocable nonexclusive license for display here.