Malay keris with very old Javanese blade?

Sajen · 8th May 2022, 07:58 PM

I came across this Malay keris with an Javanese blade, which seems to my eyes to be a very old blade with 9 shallow luk. When the seller took pictures for me, the scabbard fell down. I took it anyway, of course for another price, fortunately he sent me with all pieces of the broken scabbard and I was able to reglue it passably.
Was it common to refit old Javanese blades in Malay dresses?
As usual, all comments are very welcome!

Gustav · 8th May 2022, 10:07 PM

Detllef,

of course it could be a West Java Keris, but I would perhaps tend more to a Chenok blade from Northern Malay regions, because of Pamor and its manipulations.

Athanase · 8th May 2022, 11:38 PM

Very nice.

Lovely blade and I especialy like the selut.
The blade look-like to Segaluh type but there a but there is a little thing that is different. I've seen a keris Coteng with a similar blade before but I cannot say where the blade comes from.

David · 9th May 2022, 06:16 AM

I'm with Gustav. I don't think this is a Javanese blade.

Sajen · 9th May 2022, 05:29 PM

Hello Gustav, Séverin and David, thank you for your comments!
There seems to be an agreement that it's indeed a Chenok blade, I was unsure and thought like Gustav and Séverin mentioned that it could be a West Javanese blade.

Regards,
Detlef

GIO · 12th May 2022, 07:39 PM

and thought like Gustav and Séverin mentioned that it could be a West Javanese blade.

Regards,
Detlef[/QUOTE]

I too lean towards a west Javanese blade.

8th May 2022, 07:58 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,779	Malay keris with very old Javanese blade? I came across this Malay keris with an Javanese blade, which seems to my eyes to be a very old blade with 9 shallow luk. When the seller took pictures for me, the scabbard fell down. I took it anyway, of course for another price, fortunately he sent me with all pieces of the broken scabbard and I was able to reglue it passably. Was it common to refit old Javanese blades in Malay dresses? As usual, all comments are very welcome! Attached Images

8th May 2022, 10:07 PM	#2
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,248	Detllef, of course it could be a West Java Keris, but I would perhaps tend more to a Chenok blade from Northern Malay regions, because of Pamor and its manipulations.

8th May 2022, 11:38 PM	#3
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 408	Very nice. Lovely blade and I especialy like the selut. The blade look-like to Segaluh type but there a but there is a little thing that is different. I've seen a keris Coteng with a similar blade before but I cannot say where the blade comes from.

9th May 2022, 06:16 AM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,123	I'm with Gustav. I don't think this is a Javanese blade.

9th May 2022, 05:29 PM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,779	Hello Gustav, Séverin and David, thank you for your comments! There seems to be an agreement that it's indeed a Chenok blade, I was unsure and thought like Gustav and Séverin mentioned that it could be a West Javanese blade. Regards, Detlef

12th May 2022, 07:39 PM	#6
GIO Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 313	and thought like Gustav and Séverin mentioned that it could be a West Javanese blade. Regards, Detlef[/QUOTE] I too lean towards a west Javanese blade.