![]() |
|
![]() |
#1 |
Member
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Ireland
Posts: 539
|
![]()
Hi
I just picked up a job lot of items, interesting box of various shot and powder dispensers All are standard enough mid to late 19 century However this one has a mechanism I have never seen before It is silver hallmarked on the neck of the flask but I think the main components are nickel It looks as if you inverted the flask, opened the lever to dispense the powder, filled the cap and then the cap swivels through 90 degrees and you can then pour the powder into the gun. Lots of mechanism and complicated to manafacture. The retaining leaf spring to stop the cap from falling open is broken and the adjustment mechanism to allow various chardes to be dispensed is jamed The flask itself is quiet rotten but the mechanism is overall not too bad. The weight is in drams and it has the word patent on it so I assume English. Can anyone shed some light on if this is a rarity, I def8nstely have never seen similar If anyone can identify hallmarks I would be delighted to know any info in this regards as well Regards Ken Size of flask is standard approx 150 mm rifle, shotgun flask |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#2 | |
Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Wirral
Posts: 1,204
|
![]() Quote:
|
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#3 |
Member
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Ireland
Posts: 539
|
![]()
Hi
Here you go I think Sheffield Tudor rose is the first mark But I would be making a stab in the dark really Cheers Ken |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#4 |
Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Black Forest, Germany
Posts: 1,198
|
![]()
The "s" stands for the year 1854
corrado26 |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#5 |
Member
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Ireland
Posts: 539
|
![]()
Thanks Corrado
Am I correct in the Sheffield atributation? Also have you ever seen a similar mechanism for powder dispensing. I assume it was designed so that you did not have to put your thumb over the top of the spout, probably something a gentleman should not have to do to getting his thumb dirty. But quiet a complex solution to a simple operation. Regards Ken |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#6 |
Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,069
|
![]()
More of a safety measure I would think, in case of a lingering spark in the barrel.
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#7 | |
Lead Moderator European Armoury
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Portugal
Posts: 9,694
|
![]() Quote:
![]() There would be a different path towards deciphering those marks ... assuming they are for silver, and not for silver plate or another composition ![]() |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#8 |
Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Wirral
Posts: 1,204
|
![]()
If these are British silver hallmarks they dont really make much sense ... either that , of they are too worn for my eyes to make sense of them !
There has to be the following : a Standard mark ( to indicate it is Sterling Silver ) , a City mark , a Date Letter , and a Makers Mark. The makers mark , normally initials, always comes last & try as I may I cant discern anything from the last set of marks. Equally I am struggling to see a Standard Mark here , which would be a Lion Passant for this period ... w/o the standard mark , we are not dealing with silver and therefore cannot date it. It may be silverplate ... which is well known for its 'lookalike' 'hallmarks' often enigmatically designed to mislead the buyer . |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#9 |
Member
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Ireland
Posts: 539
|
![]()
I think you all are correct that it is a dubious mark to simulate a hallmark.
As for the mechanism has anyone seen examples of a similar set up before Thanks for the interest. Ken |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
#10 | |
Member
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: North East England.
Posts: 107
|
![]() Quote:
Quite often they have four letters which resemble 'hallmarks' which are E.P.N.S. meaning that the item is Electro Plated Nickel Silver. Another is E.P.B.M. a lesser quality product similar to pewter, Electro Plated Britania Metal. I'm not sure that the manufacturers, many of whom were high class establishments, were deliberately trying to mislead the buyers or whether they were catering for a demand from buyers who preffered to own items that would appear to be more expensive than they were. Check out my next post for an update on the makers marks Last edited by Mel H; 4th February 2018 at 03:43 PM. |
|
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
|
|