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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: San Gabriel Foothills, Southern California
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Hello,
I picked up this sword in a collection recently, and was wondering if anyone in the forum could help me with it's origin. The overall length is 39 1/4" , with the blade accounting for 31 3/4" of the length. I can't find any marking on the piece at all. The leather covering over the wooden grip has seen better days. I collect Pacific Island weapons, so this is a little out of my range of collecting. Thank you, Joe |
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That is interesting.
The hilt has sort of an "alive" look. ![]() I'd bet that it is decorative, 19th c. The blade though looks like it might be authentic. Sort of hard to tell without handling it. |
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I'm with Ed on this, it does have the look of 19th century interpretation of a rapier, using what appears to be a 19th century sabre blade. An attractive piece that might well be theatrical.
Thanks for posting it Joe, looks like it probably handles pretty well! Best regards, Jim |
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and another dratted "Urn" pommel
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Hi Folks,
Looks like a C19th stage sword to me. The grip, pommel and quite possibly hilt appear to be C19th, and possibly with a cut down or ex-military blade. A bit difficult to be more specific or sure without handling and close examination. All the best, Macdonald |
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I agree, it looks like a mismatch of original, made up, and contemporary parts, trying to reproduce a 16tt-17th c. düssage - type weapon. As Paul said, pommel looks, at the best, later, the shell is made on the spot, the cross-block (a swordsmith friend of mine likes to call it "the spider", not a bad name) may be original... or not, and the blade could indeed easily be a 19th c. recycled military blade. It definitely would need a hands-on inspection to work out the details, but, as a whole, I agree that it seems a 19th. c product.
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Hi Ed,
Saw today a few urn-pommels, Wither's "World Swords": German c.1600 Two handed sword. German Two-handed Stoc. C. 1500, both in p. 18. German Executioner Sword c. 1680 p. 14. and a squared sided version on p. 16, set on a German Bastard Sword c. 1600. In Bull's "An Historical Guide to Arms and Armor" there's another couple of these pesky beasties on p. 104 set in two German Two-handers of C. 1580. I mean, there aren't two exactly alike, but the design and form is there, quite apparent. Best Manolo Quote:
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