turkish ottoman officers sword writing

mavi1970 · 9th January 2010, 12:18 PM

can anyone deciver the writing with the size of pciture i have uploaded?
thanks

katana · 9th January 2010, 02:01 PM

Hi Mavi,
sorry cannot help with the translation, but wondered whether you could post more pictures of the sword. Do you have any other information about it ? The reason is that I am currently considering buying one that was recently offered to me. thank you.

Regards David

Atlantia · 9th January 2010, 03:15 PM

Here's bigger (but not much clearer)

Dom · 9th January 2010, 05:26 PM

Please
in respect of the general rules of this forum,
might you offer a pic (or several) of the complet weapon if your request is to have a translation
in advance thank you

à +

Dom

kronckew · 9th January 2010, 09:02 PM

the writing is upside down

Atlantia · 9th January 2010, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kronckew

the writing is upside down

LOL, good point!

graeme gt · 17th January 2010, 01:37 PM

Hi Mavi, is the bottom of the scabbard cut and not been finished of ?

mavi1970 · 17th January 2010, 10:45 PM

actually its stock that way. not cut off but produced for the size of the sword.

graeme gt · 18th January 2010, 05:50 PM

Hi Mavi,I had the same or very similar years ago i was under the impression that it was Turkish 1WW .I thought mine was a cut down full sized sword used as a trench knife or a side arm but i could be wrong .

erlikhan · 18th January 2010, 10:11 PM

Hi. it is a ww1 period Turkish military sword. i know it as not infantry but artillery officers sword.They were produced in several (at least 3) different lengths with the same scabbards and hilt,and with differing steel qualities. Plus,there are a few models more,which were not produced in Turkey but imported from Germany ,having blades with German maker marks. All of them were straight. However,only once I met a sample with curved,strong blade, again with the same hilt model and the same inscription. Perhaps was a private order.. I dont read Arabic alphabet,but as far as I know the inscription writes "Allah bizimledir" in Turkish meaning "Allah(God) is with us".

regards

katana · 1st February 2010, 02:58 PM

Hi Mavi,
have now got the Turkish officers sword I mentioned earlier. Good quality steel and a horn handle. I have posted this on the European Armoury Forum, in case you are interested

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...6572#post96572

Regards David

9th January 2010, 12:18 PM	#1
mavi1970 Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: canada Posts: 90	turkish ottoman officers sword writing can anyone deciver the writing with the size of pciture i have uploaded? thanks Attached Images

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Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Here's bigger (but not much clearer) Last edited by Atlantia; 9th January 2010 at 09:18 PM.

9th January 2010, 02:01 PM	#2
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	Hi Mavi, sorry cannot help with the translation, but wondered whether you could post more pictures of the sword. Do you have any other information about it ? The reason is that I am currently considering buying one that was recently offered to me. thank you. Regards David

9th January 2010, 05:26 PM	#4
Dom Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Paris (FR*) Cairo (EG) Posts: 1,142	Please in respect of the general rules of this forum, might you offer a pic (or several) of the complet weapon if your request is to have a translation in advance thank you à + Dom

9th January 2010, 09:02 PM	#5
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,183	the writing is upside down

17th January 2010, 01:37 PM	#7
graeme gt Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 97	Hi Mavi, is the bottom of the scabbard cut and not been finished of ?

17th January 2010, 10:45 PM	#8
mavi1970 Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: canada Posts: 90	actually its stock that way. not cut off but produced for the size of the sword.

18th January 2010, 05:50 PM	#9
graeme gt Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 97	Hi Mavi,I had the same or very similar years ago i was under the impression that it was Turkish 1WW .I thought mine was a cut down full sized sword used as a trench knife or a side arm but i could be wrong .

18th January 2010, 10:11 PM	#10
erlikhan Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Istanbul Posts: 452	Hi. it is a ww1 period Turkish military sword. i know it as not infantry but artillery officers sword.They were produced in several (at least 3) different lengths with the same scabbards and hilt,and with differing steel qualities. Plus,there are a few models more,which were not produced in Turkey but imported from Germany ,having blades with German maker marks. All of them were straight. However,only once I met a sample with curved,strong blade, again with the same hilt model and the same inscription. Perhaps was a private order.. I dont read Arabic alphabet,but as far as I know the inscription writes "Allah bizimledir" in Turkish meaning "Allah(God) is with us". regards

1st February 2010, 02:58 PM	#11
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	Hi Mavi, have now got the Turkish officers sword I mentioned earlier. Good quality steel and a horn handle. I have posted this on the European Armoury Forum, in case you are interested http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...6572#post96572 Regards David