Odd Oriental knife and brass scabbard -- revisited

Ian · 6th May 2005, 06:14 PM

In the old forum I had posted pictures (below) of an odd knife in a brass scabbard decorated with oriental designs. We never did figure out what it was: http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001527.html

A recently completed auction on eBay showed a knife of somewhat similar shape. It indicates a maker from Paris and was described as a "tobacco knife" -- presumably for the harvesting of tobacco or slicing quid. Here is the auction link with pictures: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=6174847959

Here are pictures of my mystery knife from the previous thread.

Unknown Oriental Knife

Bill · 6th May 2005, 06:50 PM

seems the blade might cut, & then gather the "sap" from something, like a opium knife

Andrew · 7th May 2005, 01:54 AM

It's a bit large for it, but it reminds me of a betel knife.

Rick · 7th May 2005, 02:12 AM

That the one on eBay might be a version of one of these :
http://store.allstainedglass.com/leadknife.html

Radu Transylvanicus · 7th May 2005, 08:25 PM

Looks Malayan to me, like a variation of a wedong chopper, pretty new also not older than a few decades ... Is that buddhist monk on the tin sheath suppose to make me believe its from more up north ?

Conogre · 8th May 2005, 07:27 AM

I can't help but notice the hilt, which looks distinctly like the Lombok wedungs, while very similar is found in many Philippine knives and swords, particularly on some reground machetes from the insurrection period that were definitley used as weapons as opposed to tools.
The scabbard appears incongrous to the piece, at first glance, yet an Oriental influence also seems to be quite well entrenched on Lombak as well.
I'm hoping that if Artzi is reading he'll post a photo of his "Philippine knife" as well.....this is also brought up under the current thread "two Lombak swords/knives"
Mike

6th May 2005, 06:14 PM	#1
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,099	Odd Oriental knife and brass scabbard -- revisited In the old forum I had posted pictures (below) of an odd knife in a brass scabbard decorated with oriental designs. We never did figure out what it was: http://www.vikingsword.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001527.html A recently completed auction on eBay showed a knife of somewhat similar shape. It indicates a maker from Paris and was described as a "tobacco knife" -- presumably for the harvesting of tobacco or slicing quid. Here is the auction link with pictures: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=6174847959 Here are pictures of my mystery knife from the previous thread. Unknown Oriental Knife

7th May 2005, 02:12 AM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,271	There's A Chance That the one on eBay might be a version of one of these : http://store.allstainedglass.com/leadknife.html

8th May 2005, 07:27 AM	#6
Conogre Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Clearwater, Florida Posts: 371	I can't help but notice the hilt, which looks distinctly like the Lombok wedungs, while very similar is found in many Philippine knives and swords, particularly on some reground machetes from the insurrection period that were definitley used as weapons as opposed to tools. The scabbard appears incongrous to the piece, at first glance, yet an Oriental influence also seems to be quite well entrenched on Lombak as well. I'm hoping that if Artzi is reading he'll post a photo of his "Philippine knife" as well.....this is also brought up under the current thread "two Lombak swords/knives" Mike Attached Images

6th May 2005, 06:50 PM	#2
Bill Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Chicago area Posts: 327	seems the blade might cut, & then gather the "sap" from something, like a opium knife

7th May 2005, 01:54 AM	#3
Andrew Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: USA Posts: 1,725	It's a bit large for it, but it reminds me of a betel knife.

7th May 2005, 08:25 PM	#5
Radu Transylvanicus Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: 2008-2010 Bali, 1998-2008 USA Posts: 271	Looks Malayan to me, like a variation of a wedong chopper, pretty new also not older than a few decades ... Is that buddhist monk on the tin sheath suppose to make me believe its from more up north ?