european sword for ID

[HUSAR]

Hi I have not been here for ages ... recently got new sword or something what it was... any ideas on markings, Passau? This is not my area, but I know this item for many years and maybe I will get it for my collection... any comments

[kronckew]

any photos of the whole thing? dimensions would be nice too. looks german side sword-ish.

bit of elbow grease and a new grip and she'll be almost good as new

[fernando]

Originally Posted by HUSAR

Hi I have not been here for ages ...

Almost seven years, Damian. I was worried something wrong happened with you. Welcome back .
Probably one of our knowledged members will say something definite about your sword. Pictures of the whole thing would be important, as suggested by Wayne.

[Reventlov]

Hello,
It looks like a great specimen! I agree that it is German, and might date to around 1530ish. The wolf-mark originates from Passau, but was already being copied elsewhere I think - in Solingen for example. There are two similar swords in Zurich that have a fairly similar "forked-cross" mark (but no wolf-mark).

best,
Mark

[HUSAR]

Originally Posted by Reventlov

Hello,
It looks like a great specimen! I agree that it is German, and might date to around 1530ish. The wolf-mark originates from Passau, but was already being copied elsewhere I think - in Solingen for example. There are two similar swords in Zurich that have a fairly similar "forked-cross" mark (but no wolf-mark).

best,
Mark

Mark Thank You Very Very Much for reply and information, wolf is on one side while "forked-cross" on both. I will try to place some more pics tomorrow. The sword is in rusty condition and was at least 24 years on my friends wall (this is when I first time saw it) and inlays seems to be in gold while still a bit shiny.

[Jim McDougall]

Husar, great to have you back!!! It does not seem you were gone that long as I remember your avatar and name clearly.
Looks like a fantastic example, and even more so that it has been static for so long in a collection you know.

The latten markings are outstanding, and excellent input there Mark, with the chart and excerpts of examples!

This of the period being suggested by Mark in my opinion, and the running wolf is of course a Solingen issue of the Passau established marking. The chart from Eduard Wagner (1967) showing the running wolf variations is of course not a chronological development study, but exemplars Wagner had noted from various weapons he had examined and their approximate period.
The forked cross also appears a Solingen issue of similar markings used in Milan (usually with letter beneath) and paired with the wolf as quality or other imbuement.

[Reventlov]

Originally Posted by HUSAR

Mark Thank You Very Very Much for reply and information, wolf is on one side while "forked-cross" on both. I will try to place some more pics tomorrow.

You're very welcome! It would be great to see the full length of the sword, and the mark on the other side. Also, is it as large as the swords in Zurich?

[HUSAR]

Originally Posted by Reventlov

You're very welcome! It would be great to see the full length of the sword, and the mark on the other side. Also, is it as large as the swords in Zurich?

Finally I have found few minutes to take pic of whole sword, sorry not the best one I will try to make some in daylight tomorrow

[HUSAR]

Originally Posted by fernando

Almost seven years, Damian. I was worried something wrong happened with you. Welcome back .
Probably one of our knowledged members will say something definite about your sword. Pictures of the whole thing would be important, as suggested by Wayne.

yes almost seven lot of work recently and not much time for collecting but some few items came in will try to post some pics soon