Looking for a rapier identical to this one.

Dmitry · 17th June 2013, 08:12 PM

I have recently purchased this nice rapier with a swept-hilt, which I'd date to the tail-end of the 16th - very early 17th c. Being that the hilt is of rather simple, sturdy, un-embellished architecture, I am thinking there maybe others out there. Straight-forward weapons like this were used by a nobleman's entourage, but not by a nobleman himself, due to the lack of decorations on the hilt. Perhaps a servant's or body-guard's weapon, or a dueling sword.
Blade is 104 cm. long, marked Sahagum on both sides, and was probably of Solingen manufacture. Rapier is a little bit on the heavy side, weighing in at 2.5 lbs., but not too heavy. It feels just right, and is nicely-balanced.

VANDERNOTTE · 18th June 2013, 02:24 AM

i look for years to have one like this ..some people are luky
congratulation
jacques

fernando · 18th June 2013, 03:36 PM

Very nice and functional sword. If (remotely) not made in Toledo, it surely has all the Toledo appeal.
Here is a rapier by Gonzalo Simon, from the same period, only partly similar to yours, just to fill the gap until one with a closer resemblance pops up.
This one has 118 cms and weighs 1.120 grams.

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Dmitry · 18th June 2013, 08:53 PM

Yes, same time-frame, your might be 25-30 years younger than mine. Both are unassuming, working swords. Very good.

M ELEY · 20th June 2013, 08:53 AM

Very nice weapons, gentlemen. Congrats on owning two 'true' fighters.

fernando · 21st June 2013, 08:49 PM

Thanks Mark

Never know if these two met some time, somewhere.
I ignore where Dmitry acquired his example from, but mine, made in Toledo, 'emigrated' i wouldn't know when to America and was brought from somewhere in the USA to Portugal by a guy who eventualy sold it to me. Quite a boomerang effect, considering Toledo is some 400 miles from here.

17th June 2013, 08:12 PM	#1
Dmitry Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 607	Looking for a rapier identical to this one. I have recently purchased this nice rapier with a swept-hilt, which I'd date to the tail-end of the 16th - very early 17th c. Being that the hilt is of rather simple, sturdy, un-embellished architecture, I am thinking there maybe others out there. Straight-forward weapons like this were used by a nobleman's entourage, but not by a nobleman himself, due to the lack of decorations on the hilt. Perhaps a servant's or body-guard's weapon, or a dueling sword. Blade is 104 cm. long, marked Sahagum on both sides, and was probably of Solingen manufacture. Rapier is a little bit on the heavy side, weighing in at 2.5 lbs., but not too heavy. It feels just right, and is nicely-balanced. Attached Images

18th June 2013, 02:24 AM	#2
VANDERNOTTE Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 60	rapier i look for years to have one like this ..some people are luky congratulation jacques

18th June 2013, 03:36 PM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Very nice and functional sword. If (remotely) not made in Toledo, it surely has all the Toledo appeal. Here is a rapier by Gonzalo Simon, from the same period, only partly similar to yours, just to fill the gap until one with a closer resemblance pops up. This one has 118 cms and weighs 1.120 grams. . Attached Images

18th June 2013, 08:53 PM	#4
Dmitry Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 607	Yes, same time-frame, your might be 25-30 years younger than mine. Both are unassuming, working swords. Very good.

20th June 2013, 08:53 AM	#5
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,097	Very nice weapons, gentlemen. Congrats on owning two 'true' fighters.

21st June 2013, 08:49 PM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Thanks Mark Never know if these two met some time, somewhere. I ignore where Dmitry acquired his example from, but mine, made in Toledo, 'emigrated' i wouldn't know when to America and was brought from somewhere in the USA to Portugal by a guy who eventualy sold it to me. Quite a boomerang effect, considering Toledo is some 400 miles from here.