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Old 10th October 2019, 10:16 PM   #1
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Hello everybody,

I just bought these two daggers,
more for the ottoman model with the velvet scabbard,

the mounts seems made of bad white metal,
and seems a touristic ( greek ) piece but I liked the arabic engravings on the blade and guess the qama like hilt was made of horn,
not expensive so I bought it.
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Old 10th October 2019, 10:26 PM   #2
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I received it and clean it a little,

mounts are very heavy, seems made on coarse cast metal
velvet seems recent on the scabbard.

In the same time the blade is better than I expected,
the ottoman fish-dragon chape is well made and seems silvered brass...

Maybe an old greek decoration piece ?
Or north african with ottoman influence ?
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Old 10th October 2019, 10:32 PM   #3
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and finally
under some rust,
this mark on the blade.
Maybe someone knows where it comes from ?
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Old 10th October 2019, 10:35 PM   #4
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So a mix
between a qama-beibut dagger,
an ottoman greek dagger
and north african engravings...

Oscillating between a fancy touristic recent stuff and a signed blade...

Glad to receive your comments !

Kind regards !!
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Old 10th October 2019, 11:42 PM   #5
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It's what you said almost exactly
Ottoman
Turkish (not Greek)
1900 1920
Constantinopolis
for the koummiya 1920-1950
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Old 11th October 2019, 02:12 AM   #6
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The dagger on the right is in fact from Morocco and is called a Koummya.
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