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Hullo everybody!
![]() Taking advantage of another window of opportunity. ![]() CAVEAT: This post is presented as is. Should any of the labelling become a source of bewilderment/confusion, please do not be concerned. Simply ignore. It is merely for the ease and consistency of taxonomy. Better photos, examples and other details I’ll leave for the aficionado and those more able than I (if they’re not already available elsewhere in this forum). Enjoy! Referring to the photo and going left-right: 1. Kalis Ladja Laoed (Straight blade) Desc: Kalis Toelid Blade: LxOALxWxT=45x59x10.07x1.31cm. Handle: Wood Sarimanoek 2. Kalis Balikoeng/Pililiang (3-wave blade) Desc: Kalis Teloe Sikoe Blade: LxOALxWxT=47x59x10.56x2.03cm. Handle: Ivory Sarimanoek pommel w/ cane-wrap 3. Kalis Piliang (5-wave blade) Desc: Kalis Naga Galap Lima Sikoe Blade: LxOALxWxT=45.5x57x9.82x1.15cm. Handle: Horn Mataangin pommel w/ twine-wrap 4. Kalis Djenia (7-wave blade) Desc: Kalis Pitoe Sikoe Blade: LxOALxWxT=48.5x61x10.1x1.27cm. Handle: Wood Sarimanoek pommel w/ twine-wrap 5. Kalis Lanteh Bandoeh (9-wave blade) Desc: Kalis Siam Sikoe Blade: LxOALxWxT=50x63x11.15x1.27cm. Handle: Wood Sarimanoek pommel w/ twine-wrap 6. Kalis Lanteh Liamai (15-wave blade) Desc: Kalis Hangpotaglima Sikoe Blade: LxOALxWxT=56x69x11.83x1.11cm. Handle: Wood Mataangin pommel w/ twine-wrap 7. Kalis Lanteh Agoeboekoe (21-wave blade) Desc: Kalis Hangpotagesa Sikoe Blade: LxOALxWxT=66x72x10.86x1.09cm. Handle: 8. Kalis Endas (23-wave blade) Desc: Kalis Naga Kaoehantagteloe Sikoe Blade: LxOALxWxT=57.5x70.5x13.36x1.41cm. Handle: Wood Mataangin pommel 9. Kalis Endas (29-wave blade) Desc: Kalis Naga Kaoehantagsiam Sikoe Blade: LxOALxWxT=56x68x10.85x1.22cm. Handle: Ivory Sarimanoek pommel w/ cane-wrap Best, Last edited by Amuk Murugul; 28th March 2016 at 02:08 AM. Reason: correcting label |
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thanks for sharing!
are those terms the local name where you're from, Amuk? |
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In addition to Ron's question, are there specific regions that are associated with this nomenclature?
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These over-size keris-like things are well outside my field of knowledge, but it has always been my understanding that they came from areas that were relatively free of Dutch influence, and that when the spellings of names were romanised, Dutch transliterations were not used to render those names.
Is my understanding incorrect? Thanks. |
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Alan, this would be my understanding and observation. Borneo, Malaysia, and the Philippines have these sizes and are outside the Dutch colonial sphere.
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Amuk:
I am unfamiliar with many of these terms or the language that you have used. The word kalis is used by the Tausug to describe their kris, and several of the other words you use seem to be transliterations from Tausug. Can you explain a little more where these terms come from (place, language) and what they mean. For comparison, I have attached a scan from Robert Cato's book, Moro Swords, p. 60, that has the common terms that he collected from Moro communities to describe kris and their various component parts in the Maguindanao, Maranao, and Tausug dialects. Ian. Last edited by Ian; 29th March 2016 at 01:04 AM. |
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