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Old 14th March 2020, 02:02 PM   #1
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Default Ottoman Hancer for translation

I have this large (52 cm; 20.1") Ottoman hancer. The blade is wootz and the hilt is walrus ivory.

I believe it to be Turkish but I would like to hear other oppinions.

I would also appreciate if somebody can help me with the translation. (do I see the year '295 - 1878?! )
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Old 14th March 2020, 05:27 PM   #2
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Very nice! It looks older then 1878 to me, I dont really see 295, more like 695 or 195
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Old 14th March 2020, 06:58 PM   #3
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Very nice! It looks older then 1878 to me, I dont really see 295, more like 695 or 195
You're right! More like 695...

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Old 14th March 2020, 07:06 PM   #4
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You're right! More like 695...

Thanks!
No I think you are right Marius 1295

For sure it's not 1195; plus the other number 1695 doesnt make any sense.

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Old 14th March 2020, 07:35 PM   #5
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No I think you are right Marius 1295

For sure it's not 1195; plus the other number 1695 doesnt make any sense.

Yep, '295 makes sense, but the 2 is written wrongly. Here below are the Arabic numerals from 1 to 9 and 0.

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Old 15th March 2020, 01:03 AM   #6
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This configuration of a handle is often attributed to Albania.
Any evidence pro or con?
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Old 15th March 2020, 01:03 AM   #7
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I think it can only be [1]295 even if it doesn’t look like a 2

The upper cartouche reads

عمل دمشق الشام صاحبه عثمان بيك

"Work of Damascus, Syria. It’s owner is Osman Bey.”

The lower one with the year is an Arabic saying, I’ll see if I can work it out
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