auction house experience

silberschatzimsee · 25th March 2016, 07:28 PM

Hi,

Has anyone experience with the auction house called czernys in italy? I am thinking of getting something tomorrow morning.

cheers
silberschatzimsee

VANDOO · 26th March 2016, 03:44 AM

I HAVE NOT BID ON THEIR AUCTIONS BEFORE BUT THEY HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR YEARS AND I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING BAD ABOUT THEM SO I THINK THEY ARE REPUTABLE. WHAT PROBLEMS MAY ARISE FROM BUYING SOMETHING FROM ITALY DUE TO REGULATIONS AND THEFT VIA CUSTOMS OR THE POST IS ANOTHER POSSIBLE PROBLEM. BUT WE MUST GIVE IT A TRY AND CAN POST IF ALL IS WELL OR IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS ON THE FORUMS. GOOD LUCK

estcrh · 26th March 2016, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by silberschatzimsee

Hi,

Has anyone experience with the auction house called czernys in italy? I am thinking of getting something tomorrow morning.

cheers
silberschatzimsee

I have purchased a couple of items in the past with no problems, do not forget the 20 plus percent auction fee, and the shipping, and customs tax depending on your location.

Battara · 26th March 2016, 04:08 AM

And please check with your country's laws regarding import of weaponry and ivory..........

silberschatzimsee · 26th March 2016, 04:53 PM

Thanks for your nice advice guys!

Next time i must prepare myself better though/fatten my piggy bank more.

All lots i liked went way beyond their upper valuation price. Must have been because its easter or something like that. Since i am only a beginner i was also not prepared to fight that hard for single pieces.

So i still have to wait for my first weapon purchase.

Gavin Nugent · 26th March 2016, 11:54 PM

Beware. There are many fakes, many composite pieces and many inaccurate descriptions. If something is not shown, ask for more images as there is often issues not shown...They also carry many fine and interesting items.

Sorry you missed your item.

Gavin

machinist · 27th March 2016, 01:07 AM

Do they take care of shipping or would I have to make arrangements? I miss out on European auctions because I worry and am a bit shy about shipping and language issues.

CSinTX · 28th March 2016, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Gavin Nugent

Beware. There are many fakes, many composite pieces and many inaccurate descriptions. If something is not shown, ask for more images as there is often issues not shown...for a company in business for so long I personally expect better...They also carry many fine and interesting items.

Sorry you missed your item.

Gavin

very accurate synopsis.

estcrh · 27th March 2016, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by silberschatzimsee

Thanks for your nice advice guys!

Next time i must prepare myself better though/fatten my piggy bank more.

All lots i liked went way beyond their upper valuation price.

What were you looking at?

Here are some things I was watching just for fun. Ottoman silahlik (weapons belt) 750 Euro / $830 US, Indian serated blade haladie 1700 Euro / $1898, Japanese kusari katabira and zukin (mail armor jacket and hood) 750 Euro / $830 US.

Roland_M · 29th March 2016, 12:43 PM

Hi,

one year ago i won an Indian Katar on Czerny's.

In my case i received no message or bill until i wrote an Email to Czerny's.

My contact Mrs. Bologna was very friendly.

A. G. Maisey · 29th March 2016, 01:33 PM

Well, I guess I'm wrong and you people are right, but just the same, in spite of over 60 years' worth of experience in my own field of expertise, in spite of having had the benefit of tuition by Javanese empus and other craftsmen who are legends in their own country, in spite of having bought and sold keris internationally for almost 40 years, I still lack the ability to adequately appraise a keris from the photographs that I have seen provided by both ebay sellers and on-line auction houses, and as for their descriptions, I'd as soon not comment.

I am not for one moment suggesting that others cease to gain satisfaction from ebay and on-line auctions, I am only saying that I do not yet have sufficient knowledge and experience to permit me to do so.

I suppose I should add that I do have other sources which over the years have permitted me to obtain some quite acceptable items. Sources that are not available to most people.

25th March 2016, 07:28 PM	#1
silberschatzimsee Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 90	auction house experience Hi, Has anyone experience with the auction house called czernys in italy? I am thinking of getting something tomorrow morning. cheers silberschatzimsee

26th March 2016, 03:44 AM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I HAVE NOT BID ON THEIR AUCTIONS BEFORE BUT THEY HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR YEARS AND I HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING BAD ABOUT THEM SO I THINK THEY ARE REPUTABLE. WHAT PROBLEMS MAY ARISE FROM BUYING SOMETHING FROM ITALY DUE TO REGULATIONS AND THEFT VIA CUSTOMS OR THE POST IS ANOTHER POSSIBLE PROBLEM. BUT WE MUST GIVE IT A TRY AND CAN POST IF ALL IS WELL OR IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS ON THE FORUMS. GOOD LUCK Last edited by VANDOO; 26th March 2016 at 06:22 AM.

26th March 2016, 11:54 PM	#6
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Beware. There are many fakes, many composite pieces and many inaccurate descriptions. If something is not shown, ask for more images as there is often issues not shown...They also carry many fine and interesting items. Sorry you missed your item. Gavin Last edited by Ian; 29th March 2016 at 07:58 PM. Reason: PLease keep negative comments to more general discussion, and send specific comments via PM or email

26th March 2016, 04:08 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,220	And please check with your country's laws regarding import of weaponry and ivory..........

26th March 2016, 04:53 PM	#5
silberschatzimsee Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 90	Thanks for your nice advice guys! Next time i must prepare myself better though/fatten my piggy bank more. All lots i liked went way beyond their upper valuation price. Must have been because its easter or something like that. Since i am only a beginner i was also not prepared to fight that hard for single pieces. So i still have to wait for my first weapon purchase.

27th March 2016, 01:07 AM	#7
machinist Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 93	Do they take care of shipping or would I have to make arrangements? I miss out on European auctions because I worry and am a bit shy about shipping and language issues.

29th March 2016, 12:43 PM	#10
Roland_M Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Germany Posts: 525	Hi, one year ago i won an Indian Katar on Czerny's. In my case i received no message or bill until i wrote an Email to Czerny's. My contact Mrs. Bologna was very friendly.

29th March 2016, 01:33 PM	#11
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,892	Well, I guess I'm wrong and you people are right, but just the same, in spite of over 60 years' worth of experience in my own field of expertise, in spite of having had the benefit of tuition by Javanese empus and other craftsmen who are legends in their own country, in spite of having bought and sold keris internationally for almost 40 years, I still lack the ability to adequately appraise a keris from the photographs that I have seen provided by both ebay sellers and on-line auction houses, and as for their descriptions, I'd as soon not comment. I am not for one moment suggesting that others cease to gain satisfaction from ebay and on-line auctions, I am only saying that I do not yet have sufficient knowledge and experience to permit me to do so. I suppose I should add that I do have other sources which over the years have permitted me to obtain some quite acceptable items. Sources that are not available to most people.