Draw Cut?

Stan S. · 12th March 2012, 11:16 PM

Hey all,

I am somewhat embarassed to admit this but while commonly seeing a reference to a "draw cut" in various literature that describes Middle Eastern martial arts, I fail to understand what exactly it entails. I understand a slash, chop, stab, thrust, etc. but how does one perform a draw cut? Please educate me. Thanks

Gavin Nugent · 13th March 2012, 01:14 AM

Hi Stan,

It is the very first cut made on drawing the sabre from the scabbard.

Suspension in these regions typically aligns and allows for a very simple fast and effective draw in an arc that I have found usually crosses the throat.

I think Wagner offers some good diagrams on this on horseback?

Gav

Jeff D · 13th March 2012, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stan S.

Hey all,

I am somewhat embarassed to admit this but while commonly seeing a reference to a "draw cut" in various literature that describes Middle Eastern martial arts, I fail to understand what exactly it entails. I understand a slash, chop, stab, thrust, etc. but how does one perform a draw cut? Please educate me. Thanks

Hi Stan,

You do a draw cut every time you cut a Tomato. The blade is drawn back as it cuts in.

Jeff

Stan S. · 13th March 2012, 04:04 AM

Gav: What happens if you miss? Does it mean that subsequent cuts are no longer draw cuts?

Jeff: Your techique may work on tomatos but not on squirming people that try to run away screaming or "draw cut" right back at you

In all seriousness, the only thing that I can picture in my mind is sort of a hack where the blade is not LIFTED from the wound but rather PULLED away from it. However, in a heat of a battle thsi may not not always be possible. Am I missing something?

fearn · 13th March 2012, 07:58 AM

Jeff's right. It's how you cut a tomato, or use a saw.

The basic point is that your arms move in an arc when you cut with a sword.

If you cut straight down, that's the classic cut. If it's short and sharp, it's a hack. If you put your back into it, you're chopping.

But remember, a cut is a straight line motion, and your arms are moving in arcs.

If you have a curved blade (or even a straight blade angled right), you will be pulling backwards on the blade to slice through your target at the bottom of the arc.

If you think of this in terms of wood, it's the difference between using an axe to cut a branch, or a saw to slice through it.

My 0.0002 cents,

F

Stan S. · 13th March 2012, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fearn

Jeff's right. It's how you cut a tomato, or use a saw.

The basic point is that your arms move in an arc when you cut with a sword.

If you cut straight down, that's the classic cut. If it's short and sharp, it's a hack. If you put your back into it, you're chopping.

But remember, a cut is a straight line motion, and your arms are moving in arcs.

If you have a curved blade (or even a straight blade angled right), you will be pulling backwards on the blade to slice through your target at the bottom of the arc.

If you think of this in terms of wood, it's the difference between using an axe to cut a branch, or a saw to slice through it.

My 0.0002 cents,

F

This makes sence. Also goes well together with a fighting technique of keeping the sword almost vertical and doing what looks like boxing with a sword and a buckler. I guess the emphasis is on striking without slowing down or breaking the rythm. This would require a very sharp blade and well developed shoulder/upper arm muscles for sure...

Lew · 16th March 2012, 01:07 PM

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...KGE7rk0QjOXIKw

This link should help

Basically the blade is pulled or drawn across the target instead of a hacking/chopping cut.

12th March 2012, 11:16 PM	#1
Stan S. Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Brooklyn, NY USA Posts: 227	Draw Cut? Hey all, I am somewhat embarassed to admit this but while commonly seeing a reference to a "draw cut" in various literature that describes Middle Eastern martial arts, I fail to understand what exactly it entails. I understand a slash, chop, stab, thrust, etc. but how does one perform a draw cut? Please educate me. Thanks

13th March 2012, 01:14 AM	#2
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Hi Stan, It is the very first cut made on drawing the sabre from the scabbard. Suspension in these regions typically aligns and allows for a very simple fast and effective draw in an arc that I have found usually crosses the throat. I think Wagner offers some good diagrams on this on horseback? Gav

13th March 2012, 04:04 AM	#4
Stan S. Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Brooklyn, NY USA Posts: 227	Gav: What happens if you miss? Does it mean that subsequent cuts are no longer draw cuts? Jeff: Your techique may work on tomatos but not on squirming people that try to run away screaming or "draw cut" right back at you In all seriousness, the only thing that I can picture in my mind is sort of a hack where the blade is not LIFTED from the wound but rather PULLED away from it. However, in a heat of a battle thsi may not not always be possible. Am I missing something?

13th March 2012, 07:58 AM	#5
fearn Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,247	Jeff's right. It's how you cut a tomato, or use a saw. The basic point is that your arms move in an arc when you cut with a sword. If you cut straight down, that's the classic cut. If it's short and sharp, it's a hack. If you put your back into it, you're chopping. But remember, a cut is a straight line motion, and your arms are moving in arcs. If you have a curved blade (or even a straight blade angled right), you will be pulling backwards on the blade to slice through your target at the bottom of the arc. If you think of this in terms of wood, it's the difference between using an axe to cut a branch, or a saw to slice through it. My 0.0002 cents, F

16th March 2012, 01:07 PM	#7
Lew (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: East Coast USA Posts: 3,191	http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...KGE7rk0QjOXIKw This link should help Basically the blade is pulled or drawn across the target instead of a hacking/chopping cut.