Small яама for ID and Comment

OsobistGB · 25th December 2017, 11:55 PM

Happy Christmas at all!
This is my Christmas present,but I need identification.I guess it's Persian in the style of silver inlays,but I am uneasy about the presence of crosses on the scabbard

I will be glad to hear your opinion!
Dimensions: Length 235mm
width 22mm

Kubur · 26th December 2017, 08:01 AM

Hi
it's not Persian at all.
Some members will tell you that's Syrian, they maybe right.
But I saw manyof them (old) in Tunisia!
I might be connected to an Ottoman Balkanic influence...

OsobistGB · 26th December 2017, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kubur

Hi
it's not Persian at all.
Some members will tell you that's Syrian, they maybe right.
But I saw manyof them (old) in Tunisia!
I might be connected to an Ottoman Balkanic influence...

Thank you for the reply,Kubur!
The reasons why I guess it was Persian / Syrian is the style of silver inlays.Another typical is the existence of the metal scabbard.These two elements are not typical of an Ottoman Balkanic.

ariel · 26th December 2017, 11:12 AM

I am in the Syrian camp:-)
Balkans would be my distant second choice.

Overall, I agree with Kubur: not Persian at all.
Happy New Year!

Oliver Pinchot · 26th December 2017, 05:52 PM

Kubur is right, it's Balkan. Specifically Bosnian, made between the World Wars.
The work is good but they are rarely very large or sharp, suggesting they were made for tourist consumption.

motan · 26th December 2017, 10:17 PM

Hello,
No definitive answer. There is a huge variety of similar Syrian daggers, all metal, rather poor quality koftgari work and mediocre to poor blades, mostly made for the souvenir market (see pic), but this one is a little different. Especially the decoration pattern does not look Syrian. So Oliver may well be right and it is Bosnian.

OsobistGB · 29th December 2017, 08:11 PM

Thanks to all!
The blade is identified.They were produced in Istanbul in the early 20th century.They were available in several sizes and were fully functional as a weapon.
Happy New Year at All

25th December 2017, 11:55 PM	#1
OsobistGB Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 94	Small яама for ID and Comment Happy Christmas at all! This is my Christmas present,but I need identification.I guess it's Persian in the style of silver inlays,but I am uneasy about the presence of crosses on the scabbard I will be glad to hear your opinion! Dimensions: Length 235mm width 22mm Attached Images

26th December 2017, 10:17 PM	#6
motan Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Jerusalem Posts: 274	Hello, No definitive answer. There is a huge variety of similar Syrian daggers, all metal, rather poor quality koftgari work and mediocre to poor blades, mostly made for the souvenir market (see pic), but this one is a little different. Especially the decoration pattern does not look Syrian. So Oliver may well be right and it is Bosnian. Attached Images

26th December 2017, 08:01 AM	#2
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi it's not Persian at all. Some members will tell you that's Syrian, they maybe right. But I saw manyof them (old) in Tunisia! I might be connected to an Ottoman Balkanic influence...

26th December 2017, 11:12 AM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I am in the Syrian camp:-) Balkans would be my distant second choice. Overall, I agree with Kubur: not Persian at all. Happy New Year!

26th December 2017, 05:52 PM	#5
Oliver Pinchot Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 457	Kubur is right, it's Balkan. Specifically Bosnian, made between the World Wars. The work is good but they are rarely very large or sharp, suggesting they were made for tourist consumption.

29th December 2017, 08:11 PM	#7
OsobistGB Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 94	Thanks to all! The blade is identified.They were produced in Istanbul in the early 20th century.They were available in several sizes and were fully functional as a weapon. Happy New Year at All