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Just picked up this interesting item from epray and now need everyones help in its identification. It was listed as "Antique Indo Persian Mughal Ottoman Turkish Ram Dagger Knanjar Knife Scabbard" but if it is I have never seen one like it. It has a carved horn hilt with a 9 inch blade and an overall length of 13 inches. A few auction pictures below. Any and all help that is offered will be greatly appreciated.
Regards, Robert Last edited by Robert Coleman; 17th December 2012 at 12:14 PM. |
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i've really a big doubt about the classification as ; - Indo Persian Mughal Ottoman Turkish as you said; I have never seen one like it ... me too ![]() i'm watching it ... more from Asia, even, from Far-East ![]() interresting and pleasant knife anyway, good catch ![]() all the best à + Dom |
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Hello Robert,
uups, you did it again! ![]() ![]() BTW, very nice and interesting knife! ![]() Best regards, Detlef Last edited by Sajen; 17th December 2012 at 02:04 PM. |
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Look for example the scabbard from my tenegre, very similar brass attachments.
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Hello Dom, and thank you for your kind words. To say the least the description is very misleading. I too believe that this is from South-East Asia, possibly the Philippines.
Detlef, I am sorry if I out bid you on this but because of the way epray is hiding the bidders identity I did not know that you were bidding on it. I use a bidding service and placed a bid on this when it was first listed and do not check back until the auction is over. This keeps me from getting caught up in the bidding and possibly bidding more than I want or can afford on an item. What caught my eye on this piece is that it looks to be sharpened on the longer of the two sides of the blade and the strange carving of the hilt. The horn itself on this piece also looks a bit odd. While the scabbard does look like it might be from the Visayans I believe that I have also seen scabbards of this style on Thai pieces. I too am waiting to see what the experts have to say about this interesting knife. I am adding a couple of somewhat clearer pictures of the hilt that will hopefully help show the carving and the graining of the horn better. Thank you both for your help and interest. Regards, Robert Last edited by Robert Coleman; 17th December 2012 at 03:46 PM. |
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Interesting to see an elephant depicted on a Philippine knife if that is where it came from .
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Good point Rick. The scabbard is like many from Burma. There be elephants?
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Hello Rick, I am not sure if it should be an elepfant. ![]() ![]() Tim, yes there are elephants in Burma. That it could come from there is an option. Regards, Detlef |
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I know that I have seen this blade profile before but as usual I cannot remember where.
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