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10th May 2011, 04:49 PM | #1 |
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Kindjal / Qama with gold and silver koftgari for ID
Hi,
just received this very nice Kindgal (Qama ?). Lovely, nicely fullered blade with gold and silver koftgari. Horn handle with 'facetted' domed rivets. A big thank you to the formites that gave me some advice, Lew and Gene Dom, kindly translated the first line of the gold script, thanks again Dom NASR MENE ALLAH WAFAT KARIB WA PACHERE AL MOMENINE, YA MOHAMED, YA ALI MOHAMED, ALI, ANNOUNCE TO THE BELIEVERS THAT THE VICTORY OF GOD AND THE CONQUEST IS FOR SOON The second line of script is not Arabic ....if anyone has any ideas to origins or a translation...I would be most grateful. The silver script on the opposite side of the blade is also not translated, as the silver was tarnished and the previous pictures were not clear enough. Please forgive me if the script is upside down. The well formed stamped marking has, what appears to be, a 'P' with a 'mirror image of a 'P' facing in the opposite direct. (the blurred picture below actually shows this more clearly than a focused pic ) Could anyone tell me its likely origins, age (I'm lead to believe mid 19thC) etc oal 26" (67 cms) Blade 20" (51 cms) length 45mm widest point. All comments gratefully received Kind Regards David |
10th May 2011, 06:57 PM | #2 |
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Congratulations. This is a nice Kindjal!
I copied the pictures and reversed them. I liked what i found; from Quranic verses, to Imam Ali praise and Sufi references! - Translation: First picture top inscription: Nasrun min Allah wa fat'hun qareeb wa bashir al mu'amineen. Ya Muhammad. Ya Ali. In english it is: Close Victory from Allah and close conquest, So give glad tidings to the Believers (This is a Quranic verse). O Muhammad. O Ali. <<<< is not part of the verse. First picture bottom inscription: Madad e ---- Tarikat Haji ---- Wali. This is not arabic so I cannot translate. But looks to a sufi reference 2nd picture top inscription: La fata illa Ali, Walla saif illa Thul'Fiqar. In english it is: No Warrior equal to Ali, No sword equal to Thul'Fiqar. 2nd picture bottom inscription: Ina Fatahna laka fathan mubina. 9 Rajab Sannah 1218 or 1318. In english it is: We have given You a clear victory (Quranic verse). 9th of Rajab, Year 1218 (or 1318:P) Last edited by A.alnakkas; 10th May 2011 at 07:18 PM. |
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pictures now right side up Kind Regards David . |
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10th May 2011, 07:18 PM | #4 |
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Hah, I copied and translated them already, check my first reply and enjoy
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10th May 2011, 09:09 PM | #5 |
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Great work Abdullatif, thank you
Do you think the date relates to an event such as a battle ...or when the sword was made ...or 'something else' ? 9th of Rajab, Year 1218 is (approx) Tuesday 25 October 1803 C.E. 9th of Rajab, Year 1318 is (approx) Friday 2 November 1900 C.E The possible Sufi reference is very interesting ....with the mention of Iman Ali can I assume that this sword originated in a Shi'a muslim community/country ? Kind Regards David |
10th May 2011, 09:57 PM | #6 |
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Well, these particular Quranic verses are commonly used on swords + daggers and the date doesnt remind me of anything.
I've seen shia's use kindjals for tatbeer and maybe this comes from a shia community in syria or turkey but am not sure. I remember once finding a sword full of shia symbolism on a badawi arab sword so things travel and gets traded often. Too bad i didnt take picture of that sword, the blade was obviously persian but it had really unique inscription. |
10th May 2011, 09:59 PM | #7 |
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It's beautiul David!
An excellent example. Well done and hearty congratulations |
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