Someone bought this as?

Tim Simmons · 26th June 2024, 06:18 PM

Antique BALL HEADED WAR CLUB Eastern Woodland Indian Effigy Face Pewter Tacks. Sold for a high price in money, do you think it was bought knowing it is African? I don't think so. I will not and the ebay link as we are not supposed to talk about money. However knowledge is power. Are we here to educate ? or what ?

David · 26th June 2024, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Antique BALL HEADED WAR CLUB Eastern Woodland Indian Effigy Face Pewter Tacks. Sold for a high price in money, do you think it was bought knowing it is African? I don't think so. I will not and the ebay link as we are not supposed to talk about money. However knowledge is power. Are we here to educate ? or what ?

I'm not seeing any images Tim. Hard to discuss without them.

Norman McCormick · 26th June 2024, 07:37 PM

Here you go Tim.

David · 26th June 2024, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Simmons

Sold for a high price in money, do you think it was bought knowing it is African? I don't think so.

Well, i don't really know much about clubs in general, but i do know that authentic First Nations/Native American artifacts, especially effigy war clubs, go for much more money than the buyer purchased this for. That would not be a lot of money if the buyer really thought this was Native American. You'd have to add a zero, or possibly even two. So my guess is that they did indeed know the club was African. Of course i don't know what a reasonable price is for an African club like this.

Sajen · 27th June 2024, 07:26 AM

I am not sure that the club in discussion is old or antique, the chips show rather bright wood, could it be rather recent?

Ian · 27th June 2024, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Sajen

I... could it be rather recent?

Looks recent to me also.

Pertinax · 27th June 2024, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ian

Looks recent to me also.

Very similar to contemporary art from Kenya and Tanzania

gp · 29th June 2024, 06:54 PM

I might be mistaken, but have some doubt whether this is a club.

Reason:

the lower or bottom part of the handle looks quite thin for a clubbing waepon.
It might break easily when used with force on a non-soft object...

Hence my thought it to be a kind / type of statue-like or ceremonial object.
But then again as stated, I might be wrong...

26th June 2024, 06:18 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Someone bought this as? Antique BALL HEADED WAR CLUB Eastern Woodland Indian Effigy Face Pewter Tacks. Sold for a high price in money, do you think it was bought knowing it is African? I don't think so. I will not and the ebay link as we are not supposed to talk about money. However knowledge is power. Are we here to educate ? or what ?

26th June 2024, 07:37 PM	#3
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,597	Here you go Tim. Attached Images

27th June 2024, 07:26 AM	#5
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,779	I am not sure that the club in discussion is old or antique, the chips show rather bright wood, could it be rather recent?

29th June 2024, 06:54 PM	#8
gp Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 717	I might be mistaken, but have some doubt whether this is a club. Reason: the lower or bottom part of the handle looks quite thin for a clubbing waepon. It might break easily when used with force on a non-soft object... Hence my thought it to be a kind / type of statue-like or ceremonial object. But then again as stated, I might be wrong...