For comment #2

A. G. Maisey · 25th March 2019, 06:40 AM

Looks like the Sunhat wrongko

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=24790

has run its course, so here is another keris for comment.

David · 25th March 2019, 03:28 PM

So what can you tell us about this particular form of wrongko Alan. I am presuming it is Cirebon. What era does this form originate from and did it serve a particular purpose (it seems more formal than everyday to me)?

Sajen · 25th March 2019, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

I am presuming it is Cirebon.

Hello David,

I would place it a little bit more to the East, Tegal. Handle and wrongko are typical.

Regards,
Detlef

PS: nice fitting sarung!

David · 25th March 2019, 09:31 PM

Thanks Detlef. Tegal and Cirebon are often a bit of a confusion for me as they seem to share some similar dress styles.

A. G. Maisey · 25th March 2019, 09:32 PM

Area of origin is Tegal.

I do not know the name applied to this wrongko by the people who used to wear this style, in Solo I have heard a number of people refer to it as "Teratai", "teratai" means "lotus/water lily", it is Malay/BI, rather than Basa Jawa, so "teratai" is likely to be a dealers' name or collectors' name rather than the name used by the people who made it or wore it --- something like our previous "caping/capil".

The hilt is a stylised Ganesha.

Tegal is located in North West Jawa Tengah, near Pekalongan.

Jean · 25th March 2019, 10:25 PM

Among European collectors this style of wrongko is said to have "hanging ears" on the sides.
Regards

A. G. Maisey · 25th March 2019, 10:43 PM

Yeah, well I guess it has got hanging ears, so there's another option for a collector's name:- "wrongko kuping gantung".

25th March 2019, 06:40 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,893	For comment #2 Looks like the Sunhat wrongko http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=24790 has run its course, so here is another keris for comment. Attached Images

25th March 2019, 03:28 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,124	So what can you tell us about this particular form of wrongko Alan. I am presuming it is Cirebon. What era does this form originate from and did it serve a particular purpose (it seems more formal than everyday to me)?

25th March 2019, 09:31 PM	#4
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,124	Thanks Detlef. Tegal and Cirebon are often a bit of a confusion for me as they seem to share some similar dress styles.

25th March 2019, 09:32 PM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,893	Area of origin is Tegal. I do not know the name applied to this wrongko by the people who used to wear this style, in Solo I have heard a number of people refer to it as "Teratai", "teratai" means "lotus/water lily", it is Malay/BI, rather than Basa Jawa, so "teratai" is likely to be a dealers' name or collectors' name rather than the name used by the people who made it or wore it --- something like our previous "caping/capil". The hilt is a stylised Ganesha. Tegal is located in North West Jawa Tengah, near Pekalongan.

25th March 2019, 10:25 PM	#6
Jean Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,740	Among European collectors this style of wrongko is said to have "hanging ears" on the sides. Regards

25th March 2019, 10:43 PM	#7
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,893	Yeah, well I guess it has got hanging ears, so there's another option for a collector's name:- "wrongko kuping gantung".