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I would think the answer may lie in the decoration on the hilt and bolster .
Good sharp close-ups of these areas would help immensely . Indo Persian , but which culture . |
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I would say Morrocan, the shape of the hilt is very similar to that of Morrocan swords. When I get home I'll try to find some pics for you.
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This is a weird one. The handle almost reminds T'boli Kampilans, the handguard is North Indian and the blade..... Make your guess...
The decorations are the answer Very intaeresting and very peculiar, but unquestionably a real weapon. Last edited by ariel; 7th June 2005 at 06:45 PM. |
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I would say N. Africa. A custom made Nimcha for someone who wanted to be different and he could affort it.
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Just got home and had a look. The hilt is a lot like a Morrocan nimcha hilt.
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The grip does look N African but I am going to say, the knuckle bow looks a bit Indo/Persian like on a tuwar or somethig like that.The construction is also like Indo/Persian knives and Afghan in particular.What does it most for me is the Peacock ingraving ,an asian bird I believe.I will hazard a guess that it is Afghan or something from the old NW Frontier.Tim
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Is it just my impression, or is the blade slightly down-curved, yataghan-like?
Sossun pattah blade? |
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Could this be some sort of interpretation of a khyber knife? I realize that it's not the "right" shape, but it is in the right size range.
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I don't think the decoration is N.African in style .
That leaves Indo Persia and the NW frontier as Tim has said . Those look like architectural details behind the Peacock , those elements remind me of some N. persian rugs I have seen . Not to mention the Peacock Throne of Persia . I can see the Indian influence in the knuckle guard but the hilt is real oddball . ![]() Whatever it is I like it !! ![]() |
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When I first saw thing thing it sort of reminded me of some Naga swords from the Assam region. They have a sword with cast bronze or brass hilt with knucklebow and large chopper like blade. Although this example is different than the "typical" Naga sword that I am speaking, it isn't too far a stretch to be an unusual variant. I would love to see the blade up close on this example to see if it might be an Indian import and watered or if it had some of the more Tibetan-like watering you more often see on blades from this region.
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It seems clear that the blade has come from some other weapon.I am still going with poor nomad people from around the NW frontier, like Rick said with similar carpet motifs,people like the Balouch among others.Tim
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Here a few more photos including the blade, which doesnt seem to have any damascus qualities.
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Sorry forgot the blade one and here the back of the grip. Did anyone notice that both peacock designs have 4 legs!
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Hi Andy,
Thanks for those extra pics. I'm not sure that those peacocks have four legs. Collectively, those "four legs" have the right number of toes for a normal peacock, so I think it was just the artist's attempt to show legs with width. Crude, but there you have it. I also think that there might be a head-on view of an elephant on the curve of the pommel (forehead and trunk). Fearn |
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That does look like an elephant head which could indicate a more easterly origin in India or Nepal.It might be a form of Ram Dao if thats the right name.I know the knife Rsword is talking about, but this does not look as heavy as one of those, they have a knuckle duster as a knuckle bow.Tim
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