What Are These?

David · 20th March 2008, 02:02 AM

I found these on a website that Shahrial linked to in a recent thread. They apparently reside at the Koleksi Museum Geusan Ulun Bandung. From the looks of them they appear to have been made this way, not reformed to fit the dress. See the shape of the fuller in the last photo? Anybody see keris like these before or know more about them?

Newsteel · 20th March 2008, 03:25 AM

I was wondering too. The base looks like a keris, but the blade looks like a golok. However, it looks recently made (no more than 100 yrs).
Perhaps others might have better opinion or knowledge about this.

PenangsangII · 21st March 2008, 05:52 AM

I would say these are badik category.

Henk · 21st March 2008, 10:45 AM

I would say considering the dress, golok. The base of the blades do have keris features indeed.

Although I have to agree with newsteel about the age, I think this are well made pieces.

David · 21st March 2008, 03:15 PM

hmmm....does the type of dress actually determine what these blades would be called. True they seem to be edged on only one side which is not a usual keris feature, but everything else about the blades says keris to me. All the ricikan seem to be there. Separate gonjos. Asymetric base. So how can one call it a golok or badik?

As for age, it is really impossible to tell, but to my eyes the blades look older than the dress.

Henk · 21st March 2008, 07:17 PM

I agree completely with you David. The base of these blades look completely like keris. Still the blades in my opinion towards the point look like forged into a dagger or machete form.
Maybe the empu made a joke??

20th March 2008, 02:02 AM	#1
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,250	What Are These? I found these on a website that Shahrial linked to in a recent thread. They apparently reside at the Koleksi Museum Geusan Ulun Bandung. From the looks of them they appear to have been made this way, not reformed to fit the dress. See the shape of the fuller in the last photo? Anybody see keris like these before or know more about them? Attached Images Last edited by David; 20th March 2008 at 09:34 PM.

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20th March 2008, 03:25 AM	#2
Newsteel Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 132	I was wondering too. The base looks like a keris, but the blade looks like a golok. However, it looks recently made (no more than 100 yrs). Perhaps others might have better opinion or knowledge about this.

21st March 2008, 05:52 AM	#3
PenangsangII Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 401	I would say these are badik category.

21st March 2008, 10:45 AM	#4
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	I would say considering the dress, golok. The base of the blades do have keris features indeed. Although I have to agree with newsteel about the age, I think this are well made pieces.

21st March 2008, 03:15 PM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,250	hmmm....does the type of dress actually determine what these blades would be called. True they seem to be edged on only one side which is not a usual keris feature, but everything else about the blades says keris to me. All the ricikan seem to be there. Separate gonjos. Asymetric base. So how can one call it a golok or badik? As for age, it is really impossible to tell, but to my eyes the blades look older than the dress.

21st March 2008, 07:17 PM	#6
Henk Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,209	I agree completely with you David. The base of these blades look completely like keris. Still the blades in my opinion towards the point look like forged into a dagger or machete form. Maybe the empu made a joke??