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			Lucky lucky lucky me. 
		
		
		
			I found myself a huge buginese keris for sharing. Pamor looks Raja abal raja to me, any comments ?  | 
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			Niiiice   
		
		
		
			   blade Wilhem   I agree with you Raja abala raja luk 9. after I look at your blade, i try to look at this 4 of blades and my feeling was zero   hhhmm....where in east of lombok to find old blade like yours ![]() YOU REALY LUCKY WILHEM.   bre.  | 
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 ![]() Beautiful pamor and a nice 'ganja iras' blade.  
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			Thanks for the info.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	  I was not sure about the fit of the blade myself. But the total of the blade the nice massive selut and the old ukiran made me buy it anyway. Here these old keris are also getting difficult to find. Best regards, Willem Ps. any suggestions on how a toli toli shoud look on this keris ?  | 
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   Click here to see how to tie a toli-toli.  
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			You know. I've looked a few times at that blade in the wrongko. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	To me, it looks OK. Yeah, the curve of the top of the wrongko and the curve of the gonjo are different, but the buntut urang and the sirah cecak are mated to the line of the wood; yeah, there seems to be a bit of sloppiness around the edge of the gonjo, but you get this anyway with an old original wrongko. From what I can see---only from what I can see-- I would not be prepared to say this wrongko was not original to the blade.  | 
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 The toli toli on your example is looking familiar too. This type comes from the north east of the Netherlands.  | 
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			Willem, would you please upload these images to the site.  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	They become part of the archive that way. Thanks.  
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			I found some keris that has the same characteristics come from the islands like Selayar and Makassar. To determine the authenticity of the keris from Sulawesi that you can pay attention to the material that is in use, and in my opinion that your keris comes from water areas such as Makassar and Selayar or include original keris Bugis. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	  You can pay attention to all three of these characteristics, the chain model mendak, handles and timpo are the same. And a handle shaped dowels (Takala) are mostly found in areas near the coast such as Sumbawa, Makassar and Selayar :  
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