China?Japan?

fengmodao · 29th November 2007, 02:39 PM

Shape and creation that day originally, but be the haft China reformation?Age?
All lengths 97CM
The Japanese knife protects a hand.There is argent adornment.

josh stout · 29th November 2007, 04:00 PM

In the book "Iron and steel swords of China" there are some very similar blades that are from the Ming dynasty. The tang is unusual, but consistent with what you would expect on a Chinese weapon rather than a Japanese one. Faceted dao blades like that are rare after the Ming, a time when there seems to have been considerable Japanese influence on Chinese weapons, returning styles that Japan had originally borrowed from China. The small hole in the guard is a bit confusing as that is found on Japanese guards, but not on Chinese ones. Still given the overall shape of the blade and style, I would guess this is a Ming period Chinese weapon.
Josh

Gavin Nugent · 29th November 2007, 04:19 PM

An excavated Korean piece perhaps......

fengmodao · 29th November 2007, 04:42 PM

Josh stout I agree you of viewpoint, this is really the sword of MING dynasty, however, I want to listen to the opinion of everyone's dissimilarity.
thank you
wang

josh stout · 29th November 2007, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freebooter

An excavated Korean piece perhaps......

Korean would be a good guess, but I think the tang would be more angled like a Japanese piece, and have a hole for a peg rather than a peened end. Other than that, the triangular shape to the tang and the general look of the blade could easily suggest Korean.

Does anybody know of Korean examples with a peened tang?
Josh

kahnjar1 · 30th November 2007, 03:11 AM

Although described as a Khmer DHA by the original owner, I am rather inclined to think that is in fact a Cochin Saber (Southern Vietnam). I have not had the handle off so can't tell you what the tang is like, BUT the blade and "Tsuba" look remarkably like what you are showing.

What thoughts?

ZhenjieWu · 1st December 2007, 02:56 PM

Hi everyone
I am sure this is a chinese sword, and I have seen many similar pictures in China. It is true this sword looks like a japanese sword. Actually, this kind of swords were chinese copies of japanese katana, which were only used by a special troop who were fighting against japanese pirates and warriors in south China.
Pay more attention to handle of this sword, you guys can tell the difference between japanese katana and japanese copies.
http://www.zhengzong.cn/html/15/t-715.html

29th November 2007, 02:39 PM	#1
fengmodao Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beijing Posts: 29	China?Japan? Shape and creation that day originally, but be the haft China reformation?Age? All lengths 97CM The Japanese knife protects a hand.There is argent adornment. Attached Images Last edited by fengmodao; 29th November 2007 at 02:53 PM.

29th November 2007, 04:19 PM	#3
Gavin Nugent Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,818	Hmmmm An excavated Korean piece perhaps......

30th November 2007, 03:11 AM	#6
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,739	Another suggestion?? Although described as a Khmer DHA by the original owner, I am rather inclined to think that is in fact a Cochin Saber (Southern Vietnam). I have not had the handle off so can't tell you what the tang is like, BUT the blade and "Tsuba" look remarkably like what you are showing. What thoughts? Attached Images

1st December 2007, 02:56 PM	#7
ZhenjieWu Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 12	Chinese sword, Ming dynasty(A.D. 1368~A.D. 1683 ) Hi everyone I am sure this is a chinese sword, and I have seen many similar pictures in China. It is true this sword looks like a japanese sword. Actually, this kind of swords were chinese copies of japanese katana, which were only used by a special troop who were fighting against japanese pirates and warriors in south China. Pay more attention to handle of this sword, you guys can tell the difference between japanese katana and japanese copies. http://www.zhengzong.cn/html/15/t-715.html

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29th November 2007, 04:00 PM	#2
josh stout Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 407	In the book "Iron and steel swords of China" there are some very similar blades that are from the Ming dynasty. The tang is unusual, but consistent with what you would expect on a Chinese weapon rather than a Japanese one. Faceted dao blades like that are rare after the Ming, a time when there seems to have been considerable Japanese influence on Chinese weapons, returning styles that Japan had originally borrowed from China. The small hole in the guard is a bit confusing as that is found on Japanese guards, but not on Chinese ones. Still given the overall shape of the blade and style, I would guess this is a Ming period Chinese weapon. Josh

29th November 2007, 04:42 PM	#4
fengmodao Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beijing Posts: 29	Josh stout I agree you of viewpoint, this is really the sword of MING dynasty, however, I want to listen to the opinion of everyone's dissimilarity. thank you wang