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Old 7th April 2025, 09:47 PM   #1
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I aquired polish saber that looks amazing, i payed sh*** load of money for it, so polish experts (be thrutful i can take it, but please no guessing or “i think”,if and only if you are 1000% sure or know similar, if it is a very very good and expensively made fake)
Guy offerde it to me from a guy who has big and extraordinary collection of swords and sabers, i bought two more one persian and one ottoman, for which im 1000% sure they are genuine and extraordinary examples, so i was in no doubt on this one, it seems to me it belonged to Polish royalty, becouse of cross and becouse of gold and silver work, and quality overall, (tested it and it is real gold and silver, i checked scabbard with endoscope and it is as it is suposed to be, no paint or darkening work around mouth like on fake stuff, but whole length is as it should be.

Few “experts” and life long sirious collectors checked it and said it is real, and amazing.

So if there are experts here on polish sabers, please do help (but please only if you are sure, with explanation why and becouse of what).

Thank you, Serdar.
(P.s. I apologise in advance for my bad grammar and speling, and if i uploaded too much photos).
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It is sharpened only on first third of the blade, very sharp, and gradualy thickens.
It was carryed there is worn metal on rign holders, (i dont know how good it will be posible to see from photos.
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Old 8th April 2025, 05:30 PM   #5
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Thank you but i determined i was deceived and robed, it is fake, sold by german antique weapons dealer active online, on facebook and in store who boost him self with 100 year experience, i wont name names, but it is a fraud and crime.

It was sold to me as original polish saber for great sum of money, without any mentioning of a year, or kostume saber, which he mentioned when i colided him with evidence of forgery.

So be careful when you buy expensive rare swords in great condition from established antique dealers, germany or where ever.
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Old 8th April 2025, 10:09 PM   #6
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I suspect, from the lack of member responses, that your fears may be correct. I am not experienced at all with swords from this region, so consider my comments with great caution. The steel blade proper does appear to have some age, but the applied decorations on the blade and mounts may, indeed, be 'too good to be true' and more recent. Though of a different style and time, I am reminded of the 'enhancement' sometimes seen in forgeries of Viking Age swords that originate in eastern Europe.

Dealers do sometimes make mistakes without fraudulent intent, so the true test is whether a dealer values his reputation over the profits from a sale and offers a refund. If it is any consolation, I suspect any of us here who have amassed a collection of any significant size will have made mistakes along the way - I certainly have!
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