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3rd September 2024, 10:23 AM | #1 |
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Keris or not?
Seems lost many elements in upper area.
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3rd September 2024, 01:38 PM | #2 |
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Yes.
Cengkrong luk lima. |
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So Alan, this is normal for this type of keris? No ganga I noticed.
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Yes, form is correct, but sometimes they will have a gonjo, sometimes the gonjo might be iras, ie, just marked on the blade, not fitted separately.
The ones with no gonjo have sometimes had a gonjo fitted & it has been lost, other times they appear to have never had a gonjo. |
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11th September 2024, 11:43 AM | #6 |
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In my opinion, though not as experienced as others, the kris you show is South Sumatran Kris .
I have never seen that particular dhapur featured here (but others with more experience may be familiar with them) The " ganja" appears to be not really separated from the blade with a " symbolic" separation Last edited by milandro; 11th September 2024 at 12:00 PM. |
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they seem to exist with and without a Ganja.
The dress and hilt are Madurese and I think that, once cleaned and stained, the blade may, possibly, show as being pamor adeg rambut |
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The waves in the blade of a keris are called "luk".
"Lima" is the number 5. "Luk Lima" is "five wave". The present method of wave count is to begin on the first wave above the gandhik and the first wave on the other side of the blade is wave 2. We continue towards the point and finish the count on the same side of the blade that we began on, often there is no wave at that point, it is often a nominal wave only. The number of waves is always uneven, except in extremely rare cases. |
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I don't think it is a prerogative of a 5 luk kris being Ganja Iras. Any kris straight or with luk may or may not be created without a Ganja.
here there is a thread with some info on this http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=Gonjo+Iras |
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