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Old 10th May 2024, 11:04 PM   #1
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I was given this by a dealer in Virginia Beach, VA. USA. It was found, not surprisingly, on a beach locally.

Note that there is significant delamination. It has not been treated.

Current size is
11.5" long
~4" in diameter.
I estimate that the original length was ~14"

I have no doubt about the authenticity of this thing.

Age ... Well there were a lot of violent confrontations along the Eastern seaboard of the US. Pirates, Brits, the CW. I sez pick yer age and go with it.

I'd guess CW.

A note on chain and bar shot. These silly things have been reproduced in 12ga shotgun loadings. The research that I have seen suggests that both extremities of these lethal things go thru the same hole.

Here is a test ... both balls (1/2" in dia) make a hole 1" in dia.

https://youtu.be/toYywyiOBw0?t=66

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Old 12th May 2024, 01:52 AM   #2
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Very nice find, Ed! These bar- and chain-sot are becoming harder and harder to find. Of course, one has to be careful with misidentified (i.e.dumbells!) and downright fakes (some of the sliding bar shots I've seen are modern blacksmith-crafted). I'm always in the market for these, but my wallet is usually a little too empty to afford them! I was surprised to learn over the years the smaller sizes these can run in, some of the bars not much longer than a pencil!

A question I've always had is if the bar shot and chain shot that was still around for the CW really made then? Or much like many boarding pikes, where they reused ordinance from earlier periods?
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Old 12th May 2024, 03:53 AM   #3
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Thats an excellent question Capn!
It was not at all unusual for weapons and ordnance still brought into use in later wars and conflicts, and in the Civil War many weapons from Revolutionary War and War of 1812 still used. With these types of naval artillery ordnance were probably still stored in arsenals IMO.
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Old 12th May 2024, 09:36 AM   #4
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My example was recovered from the wreck of the Hanover, she was a 100ft two-masted brigantine, built in 1757. On 20 November 1763 the Hanover left Lisbon, on her way to Falmouth, and on 2 December was hit by a hurricane. Of the 27 crew and just over 30 passengers it is believed that only three survived.

Its shaft is square in profile, rather than being of round bar, and ends are cylindrical, rather than spherical or semi-spherical, as is sometimes encountered.
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Old 12th May 2024, 08:30 PM   #5
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These were great for cutting up your opponent's rigging when used at sea.
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Old 13th May 2024, 12:25 AM   #6
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Incredible! Another fine example and this one with provenance! Adrian, I am green with envy! If you ever grow weary of it, remember me
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My example was recovered from the wreck of the Hanover, she was a 100ft two-masted brigantine, built in 1757. On 20 November 1763 the Hanover left Lisbon, on her way to Falmouth, and on 2 December was hit by a hurricane. Of the 27 crew and just over 30 passengers it is believed that only three survived.

Its shaft is square in profile, rather than being of round bar, and ends are cylindrical, rather than spherical or semi-spherical, as is sometimes encountered.
This type of bar shot (post #4) with cylindrical heads is known as 'hammer shot' according to sources I checked.
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