medieval style stiletto

francantolin · 4th August 2021, 10:02 PM

Hello dear members,

I got this dagger, 39cm long
too shiny-nice for being really a medieval piece,
there is a mark on the blade, maybe a Fleur de Lys.

The wooden hilt and the iron guard are really well made and could be pretty old ( 19th century ),
just the blade seems too perfect for being an old piece so maybe a recent 20th century blacksmith repro with the classical Fleur-de-Lys mark ??

What do you think ?

Kind regards

Battara · 6th August 2021, 03:41 AM

You might be right. Check the crevice between the hilt and base of the blade to look at the patina.

It could also be an over cleaned blade.........only the patina would tell us, though I'm betting that it is a newer blade.

BTW - I still like it.

fernando · 6th August 2021, 11:11 AM

José, you have a PM.

francantolin · 6th August 2021, 06:47 PM

Hello Battara,
thank's a lot for your message,
( and no PM for me

)
I can't see a lot between the hilt and the base of the blade,
I put pictures, maybe it helps.

On the basis of the blade, there is a sign of mechanical sanding so maybe is has been over cleaned
but it contrasts with the hilt and guard, really well preserved ( especially the wood hilt ) for being really old..?.

shayde78 · 7th August 2021, 03:16 AM

So...this is now the third one of these I have seen. The first one I saw, I bought and posted here

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=Stiletto

I also posted pictures from the auction selling the second example. I am still waiting to get clarity on the origins of these. I look forward to seeing if the presence of three such examples generates any new insights.

francantolin · 7th August 2021, 01:21 PM

Hello,
Thank you for you message and the link,
Exactly the same dagger, ...!?...
have you got too the same ''Lys'' mark on the basis of the blade ?
Or maybe you sold it recently ( to me

)

For the origin , if it's recent, maybe it's an east european production ?
Didn't find the same dagger but the global feeling makes me think of czeck forged swords...

4th August 2021, 10:02 PM	#1
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 876	medieval style stiletto Hello dear members, I got this dagger, 39cm long too shiny-nice for being really a medieval piece, there is a mark on the blade, maybe a Fleur de Lys. The wooden hilt and the iron guard are really well made and could be pretty old ( 19th century ), just the blade seems too perfect for being an old piece so maybe a recent 20th century blacksmith repro with the classical Fleur-de-Lys mark ?? What do you think ? Kind regards Attached Images

6th August 2021, 06:47 PM	#4
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 876	Hello Battara, thank's a lot for your message, ( and no PM for me ) I can't see a lot between the hilt and the base of the blade, I put pictures, maybe it helps. On the basis of the blade, there is a sign of mechanical sanding so maybe is has been over cleaned but it contrasts with the hilt and guard, really well preserved ( especially the wood hilt ) for being really old..?. Attached Images

7th August 2021, 03:16 AM	#5
shayde78 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 445	So...this is now the third one of these I have seen. The first one I saw, I bought and posted here http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...light=Stiletto I also posted pictures from the auction selling the second example. I am still waiting to get clarity on the origins of these. I look forward to seeing if the presence of three such examples generates any new insights. Last edited by shayde78; 7th August 2021 at 03:18 AM. Reason: Broken link

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6th August 2021, 03:41 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,219	You might be right. Check the crevice between the hilt and base of the blade to look at the patina. It could also be an over cleaned blade.........only the patina would tell us, though I'm betting that it is a newer blade. BTW - I still like it.

6th August 2021, 11:11 AM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	José, you have a PM.

7th August 2021, 01:21 PM	#6
francantolin Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 876	Hello, Thank you for you message and the link, Exactly the same dagger, ...!?... have you got too the same ''Lys'' mark on the basis of the blade ? Or maybe you sold it recently ( to me ) For the origin , if it's recent, maybe it's an east european production ? Didn't find the same dagger but the global feeling makes me think of czeck forged swords...