Keris for sharing

jagabuwana · 13th April 2019, 06:03 AM

Hi all,

Here's one of my keris. I picked it up in a really sorry crusty state (http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=24017) and it cleaned up nicely. I tried to sulphur stain it but I wasn't at all satisfied with the result. I bought some realgar and will attempt to stain with that.

Jogja dressings, bugis blade.

My gratitude to a certain member of this forum who helped me complete this keris with his time, care and labour, teaching me a great deal all the while. I'm not sure he would like to be named, but I would be very happy for them to make themselves known

jagabuwana · 20th April 2019, 09:07 AM

.. at the risk of sounding like I'm fishing, comments are welcome, though I can see why that would be ambiguous from the thread title.

David · 20th April 2019, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jagabuwana

.. at the risk of sounding like I'm fishing, comments are welcome, though I can see why that would be ambiguous from the thread title.

Well we did already have a discussion about the blade, as you have pointed out with the link you provided. It is a bit of a mismatch with this Bugis blade in fairly pedestrian Yogyakarta dress. I am not sure there is much to actually comment on regarding this dress other than the obvious mismatching. Is there something else in particular you wish to know about this keris that has not already been discussed yet?

Sajen · 20th April 2019, 09:16 PM

I agree with everything David has stated. Why you haven't tried to give the blade a Bugis dress?

Regards,
Detlef

A. G. Maisey · 21st April 2019, 01:34 AM

Yes, it is a mismatch, but something that a lot collectors do not realise is that old Bali, Madura, and Bugis blades are found reasonably frequently in old Javanese dress that we associate with the old centers of power.The reason for this is that men from these societies were recognised as very capable fighters. and were employed as mercenaries.

Then there is the possibility that Jaga preferred to use this dress, rather than none at all.

jagabuwana · 21st April 2019, 02:03 PM

Alan is right - I preferred some dress rather than none at all and I also like Jogja and Solo dress much more than I do bugis. I understand that it's a mismatch but my mindset and approach isn't that of a collector's. I suppose this means that I don't intend to be strict about the dress of a keris that isn't a pusaka or has high value

13th April 2019, 06:03 AM	#1
jagabuwana Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 281	Keris for sharing Hi all, Here's one of my keris. I picked it up in a really sorry crusty state (http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=24017) and it cleaned up nicely. I tried to sulphur stain it but I wasn't at all satisfied with the result. I bought some realgar and will attempt to stain with that. Jogja dressings, bugis blade. My gratitude to a certain member of this forum who helped me complete this keris with his time, care and labour, teaching me a great deal all the while. I'm not sure he would like to be named, but I would be very happy for them to make themselves known Attached Images

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20th April 2019, 09:07 AM	#2
jagabuwana Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 281	.. at the risk of sounding like I'm fishing, comments are welcome, though I can see why that would be ambiguous from the thread title.

20th April 2019, 09:16 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,781	I agree with everything David has stated. Why you haven't tried to give the blade a Bugis dress? Regards, Detlef

21st April 2019, 01:34 AM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,892	Yes, it is a mismatch, but something that a lot collectors do not realise is that old Bali, Madura, and Bugis blades are found reasonably frequently in old Javanese dress that we associate with the old centers of power.The reason for this is that men from these societies were recognised as very capable fighters. and were employed as mercenaries. Then there is the possibility that Jaga preferred to use this dress, rather than none at all.

21st April 2019, 02:03 PM	#6
jagabuwana Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 281	Alan is right - I preferred some dress rather than none at all and I also like Jogja and Solo dress much more than I do bugis. I understand that it's a mismatch but my mindset and approach isn't that of a collector's. I suppose this means that I don't intend to be strict about the dress of a keris that isn't a pusaka or has high value